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GrahamWL

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:12am

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:12am

Thank you Brian. Even five months on this is still one of the most measured,  sensible responses to be found on this thread.  It will be a tragedy for many of us if we become third party nationals  at the end of this tortuous process (as seems increasingly likely) but it will not prevent one from moving to Spain, merely  remove the privileges and favourable treatment hat stems from being a citizen of the EU.  British people have been settling in  Spain for decades, without difficulty; the difference will be that the  set of criteria will change and be somewhat more demanding, especially as regards healthcare and the minimum funds needed to be approved.  For retired applicants, the non-lucrative visa route is similar to the current one and no more testing. Health insurance is Spain is  good value even for those of pensionable age if relatively fit eg I have a limited  access  private insurance in the UK which  is more expensive than those for which I have been quoted in Spain, the latter including all medical care including  GP services.  One needs funds of around 26000 euros available for year one  ( the visa is initially for one year, thereafter renewable for two year periods), but one is not required to spend it, therefore if you spend only 10000,  you will then have  16000 left to top up for year two.  Just think of all the non EU citizens resident in Spain, from China, Russia, USA,  South America, etc. who appear to live there happily and without angst.  True, we are throwing away  a favoured status which is highly regrettable but all is not lost. 

Villas

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:44am

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:44am

Villas wrote on Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:24am:

Judged or misjudged, your opinion, "your taste" & certainly not  nasty. Thank you for that. Now can we talk about issues rather than other´s opinions picking on faults.´Which was:

Moving to Spain: what happens if the UK leaves the EU?


& the reference on the news yesterday, regarding EU/UK security....

...

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Edicion “The Conversation” Rigor académico, oficio periodístico. Britain’s weakness and preoccupation with Brexit, Europe’s lack of strategic foresight and defence capabilities, and a transatlantic relationship struggling to find common ground are all exposing frailties in the wider US-UK relationship. The UK now has to make difficult choices in terms of its national interest and relations with its closest strategic partners. Both narrow national and wider international conditions and events have made this particularly tricky for the UK, especially given the overarching difficulties of Brexit and the recent change in leadership. Recent events in the Mediterranean & Straits of Hormuz and the overall trajectory of the Iranian nuclear agreement are a case in point. Hence my point, “safe?”, I refer to Boris & Trump.

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Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:10am

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:10am

Hi Brian and Steve,

I, too, remember the appalling events at Lockerbie - they were, and are, no laughing matter. 

However, I believe you may have misunderstood Villas' post.  He quoted the historical facts, but I interpreted the point of his post as his final sentence, "French/ EU & UK sorted it!......    You WERE safe! ..........Boris & Trump will NEED TO take care!"

You'll see that I've made a couple of small changes to his words - this is for two reasons, a) English is not Villas' first language, and b) based on previous posts he's made, I believe he was trying to make a serious point about the world being a much safer place when the UK, as part of the EU, worked with our European partners.  That co-operation and safety is no longer assured with Trump and BoJo on the World stage.

As members of the EU, we belong to European-wide organisations with protocols for sharing secret and sensitive information, in order to fight not only terrorism, but also to battle the endemic trades of drugs, people smuggling, modern  slavery and much more.  With Brexit, that cooperation stops. 

I can't pretend to understand everything that Villas posts, but I can honestly say that I have never seen him post anything that I believe he intended to be cruel or nasty.

Kind regards,

Kim

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15am

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15am

Hi Villas,

I didn't see your most recent post before I finished mine, so good to know that my interpretation of your previous comments was correct.  I don't like to put words in the mouths of others, but I believed the point of your earlier post was the potential threat to world safety posed by the shifts in national powers.

Kind regards, 

Kim

Villas

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:24am

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:24am

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:15am:

Hi Villas,

I didn't see your most recent post before I finished mine, so good to know that my interpretation of your previous comments was correct.  I don't like to put words in the mouths of others, but I believed the point of your earlier post was the potential threat to world safety posed by the shi...

...fts in national powers.

Kind regards, 

Kim

In a nut-shell. K2.💬

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M4ximus

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:01pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:01pm

One thing I can say for sure - your property will still belong to you. Economic uncertainty may have paralysed some parts of the UK’s ­housing market, but since the EU referendum, and despite the weakness of sterling, many Britons have continued to buy properties abroad, and are still looking to do so. Not everyone is prepared to shelve an aspiration for a bolthole in southern Europe that they have been saving for 30 years to achieve.
As a man from Essex, I have property in Spain. I looked into https://www.realestateespanol.com/ and I actually found out that nothing scary is going to happen. Everything will still be the same for us brits.
My conclusion is that if you are buying or building a holiday home that may become a second retirement home, and you do not intend you work in Spain, and intend to return to the UK eventually say in your late 80s or 90s then you don’t have much to worry about.

jimtaylor

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:13pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:13pm

What we residents do have to worry about is the effect of the exchange rate on our income. Since the referendum result, our income has dropped about 20-25%. If there's an economic collapse in the UK post Brexit, then our income will drop even further. If that happens, I'll have to send Margaret down to a local roundabout to boost our income.

Villas

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:21pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:21pm

jimtaylor wrote on Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:13pm:

What we residents do have to worry about is the effect of the exchange rate on our income. Since the referendum result, our income has dropped about 20-25%. If there's an economic collapse in the UK post Brexit, then our income will drop even further. If that happens, I'll have to send Margaret d...

...own to a local roundabout to boost our income.

Don´t make glib comments........I have to send Don Quijote for mine! 🐴👈

Poor Margaret.

With x

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:23pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:23pm

It may give her a boost too 🤣

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:29pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 5:29pm

It might give her something else as well!

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