Withdrawal Agreement - Brexit and the EU: living, holidaying and moving to Albatera - Albatera forum - Costa Blanca forum in the Alicante province of Spain
Gran Alacant Insurances
Costa Blanca Building Specialists
James Spanish School
ASSSA Insurance
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada
interior building work
AA Free English TV
Thy Will Be Done
Car Key Solutions
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
Expat Services
Espana Dream Properties
Gentlevan Removals
Blacktower Financial Management

Join the Albatera forum

Join the Albatera forumMy name's Alex and this is my website all about Albatera in Spain. Register now for free to talk about Brexit and the EU: living, holidaying and moving to Albatera and much more!

Withdrawal Agreement

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:19pm
6 replies482 views2 members subscribed
Movingon

Movingon

Super helpful member

Posts: 1857

1607 helpful points

Location: Albatera

Joined: 7 Feb 2018

I'm sure we've all heard of it and have a fair idea of what it means. I considered myself pretty well up on it but having read it, or rather a plain English 'translation' with the verbose and confusing legal jargon stripped out, I've fleshed up on a few things I already knew and learnt at least one thing I didn't.

For instance:

Once you have acquired permanent residence, you can be away from your host country for 5 years - an increase on the 2 years permitted for EU citizens - and still retain the right to return and keep your rights of permanent residence. 

If you do not have your 5 years in yet:

While you are building up your years to 5, you can be away from your host country for no more than 6 months every year without losing your resident status. You’re allowed one longer absence of up to 12 months in the 5 year period for ‘important reasons’: eg childbirth, serious illness, study, vocational training or posting elsewhere.

If you are covered by an S1 (and this one is a surprise) 

If you hold an S1 form from the UK, you will also continue to be eligible for a UK-issued European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) which will cover you for medically necessary treatment during a temporary visit to any EEA country or Switzerland.

It's worth a read and although it's tailored for UK citizens in France the terms of the agreement are EU wide and enshrined in law (or will be) so the only variations will be in the way each country implements them on a bureaucratic level.

https://www.francerights.org/withdrawal-agreement.html

jimtaylor

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:43am

jimtaylor

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 5612

8738 helpful points

Location: Mudamiento

Joined: 2 Feb 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:43am

I'd want proof of what they say by a cross-reference to the legal document containing the wording re the S1. 

The S1 is covered in the draft agreement, but not in the formal Withdrawal Agreement passed by the EU Parliament, which doesn't mention it.

Movingon

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:51am

Movingon

Original Poster

Super helpful member

Posts: 1857

1607 helpful points

Location: Albatera

Joined: 7 Feb 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 5:51am

Here you go Jim, fill yer' boots.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:12019W/TXT(02)&from=EN#d1e35-1-1

FWIW l don't think anything can be read into any lack of specific mention of the S1 as its a document unique to the UK which serves to facilitate reciprocal health care as provided for currently and going forward, you'd have to wade through and decipher the legal waffle to identify the clause or clauses in the agreement which cover that. 

jimtaylor

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:06am

jimtaylor

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 5612

8738 helpful points

Location: Mudamiento

Joined: 2 Feb 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:06am

Filled 'em. Still not happy! Where in that does it mention continuity of health cover?

If you want a shufty at what the EU Parliament approved:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?qid=1580486422712&uri=CELEX:12020W/TXT

Advertisement - posts continue below

Movingon

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:22am

Movingon

Original Poster

Super helpful member

Posts: 1857

1607 helpful points

Location: Albatera

Joined: 7 Feb 2018

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:22am

Looks pretty much like the same document Jim, difficult to say for sure on a tablet but I'll fire up the PC later which will make comparison much easier. 

As handy as they are it's totally beyond me how folk manage to have a full and rich digital exerience with nothing more than a smartphone or a tablet! 

jimtaylor

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:05pm

jimtaylor

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 5612

8738 helpful points

Location: Mudamiento

Joined: 2 Feb 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:05pm

If you want to try a dummy CCSE test, go to the following, which has 200 questions, so effictively eight actual tests:

https://www.parainmigrantes.info/test-de-nacionalidad-espanola-examen-300-preguntas-de-nacionalidad-test-de-prueba-ccse/

jimtaylor

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:15pm

jimtaylor

Legendary helpful member

Posts: 5612

8738 helpful points

Location: Mudamiento

Joined: 2 Feb 2017

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 4:15pm

This post that was quoted has been deleted.

There's more to it than that, Ray. The 300 are just sample questions, and the actual test will no doubt exclude questions that have already been asked, so really there's no point in learning that 300.

I'd encourage everyone to have a go at the dummy questions - some of the answers surprised me. Incidentally, you've got a one in three chance of randomly selecting a correct answer.

Sign up for free or login to reply to this topic

Want to reply to this topic? Login or register for free to post your message:

Find more Brexit and the EU topics from a particular area:


Register for free!

Login to your account

Gran Alacant Insurances
Costa Blanca Building Specialists
James Spanish School
ASSSA Insurance
Airport Service Taxi Mil Palmeras  Torre de la Horadada
interior building work
AA Free English TV
Thy Will Be Done
Car Key Solutions
Jennifer Cunningham Insurances SL
Expat Services
Espana Dream Properties
Gentlevan Removals
Blacktower Financial Management
Advertise your business here
Advertise your property
Help with my computer