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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:10pm
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Stolen from elsewhere. Today we moved indoors from the covered terrace. We now have central heating and insulation but that first winter was miserable.

It’s That Time of Year Again… When Spain Forgets What Temperature It IsAh yes… that magical season when Spanish houses become colder than the outside world and every expat questions their life choices while wearing socks in the living room.You start your day like a proper Spanish onion — layer after layer of survival gear:

Scarf (check)

Jacket (check)

Long-sleeve (check)

T-shirt underneath, just in case the sun decides to show off (check)

You step outside and feel like you’ve nailed it.

But fast-forward to 2 p.m. and suddenly you’re melting like mozzarella on a tosta.

That scarf? Gone.

The jacket? Forgotten. (Probably in the car, the office, or at the ayuntamiento while you were waiting for your cita previa.)

Now you’re walking home in a tank top like, “Wasn’t it winter this morning?â€

Then comes 7 p.m. — you open the door to your house and BAM:

Welcome to the Frozen Yogurt Aisle of Spain.

It’s sunny and 25°C outside, but inside it’s December in Siberia.

You’re wrapped in a blanket, holding your coffee like a survival tool, wondering why your home feels like an unheated Airbnb in the Arctic.

You debate lighting the fireplace, but then you feel guilty because… it was hot at lunch.

And somehow, this internal conflict defines Spanish autumn.

So, if you came to Spain chasing sunshine and “mild Mediterranean weather,†surprise!

You’re about to experience thermal whiplash — shorts by day, ski socks by night, and a love-hate relationship with your persianas.

Spain in November: where houses are colder than your ex, and you’ll lose at least one scarf before Christmas.

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:19pm

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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:19pm

Heh, so true indeed and sums up my first winter stay last year.

The way it goes hot to cold and vice versa was a real shock.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:12pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:12pm

I could not agree with you more.  My place is like a fridge, it seldom warms up even in summer.  I have never needed air con.  

I have a pellet fire in the lounge which warms it up pretty quickly.  It replaced a wood burner which made one heck of a mess and needed constant feeding. I just got fed up with it.

The Spanish have never grasped the idea of damp courses, or insulation of any sort and all my floors are tiled which does not help especially when they are put directly on the soil under the house.  Most of them are now covered with thick rugs which helps.

I am not sure about Spanish new builds.  Do they now insulate them to a decent standard, use cavity walls with insulation and fit damp courses?  I'm sure someone will enlighten me.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:04pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:04pm

Classic man wrote on Sun Nov 16, 2025 12:12pm:

I could not agree with you more.  My place is like a fridge, it seldom warms up even in summer.  I have never needed air con.  

I have a pellet fire in the lounge which warms it up pretty quickly.  It replaced a wood burner which made one heck of a mess and needed constant feeding. I just got fed up with it.
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The Spanish have never grasped the idea of damp courses, or insulation of any sort and all my floors are tiled which does not help especially when they are put directly on the soil under the house.  Most of them are now covered with thick rugs which helps.

I am not sure about Spanish new builds.  Do they now insulate them to a decent standard, use cavity walls with insulation and fit damp courses?  I'm sure someone will enlighten me.

I think the EPC rating gives the best clue but so many adverts show "In process" that it is difficult to tell and the cost of new builds is eye watering.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:21pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:21pm

Flyingduck81 wrote on Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:04pm:

I think the EPC rating gives the best clue but so many adverts show "In process" that it is difficult to tell and the cost of new builds is eye watering.

I can only think the EPC for this place will be off the bottom of the scale. Not a skerrick of insulation anywhere and the wiring is original too, but improvements have been made over time including TWO LED light bulbs!!!  😂😂 ðŸ˜‚

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:32pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:32pm

It would seem standards are improving rapidly:

Main new features of the CTE in force (2024-2025)

Higher energy requirements

  • New constructions must approach the Nearly Zero Energy Building (nZEB) standard.
  • Requirements for thermal insulation, air infiltration and transmittance in building envelopes are increased.

Mandatory renewable energies

  • New homes must incorporate solar thermal or photovoltaic energy, depending on the type of use.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:45pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:45pm

Badger1234 wrote on Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:32pm:

It would seem standards are improving rapidly:

Main new features of the CTE in force (2024-2025)

Higher energy requirements

New constructions must approach the Nearly Zero Energy Building (nZEB) standard.Requirements for thermal insulation, air infiltration and transmittance in building envelopes are increased.

Mandatory renewable energies...

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New homes must incorporate solar thermal or photovoltaic energy, depending on the type of use.

And the main people who can afford them are foreigners, often as holiday homes mainly used in the warmer months so expensive ornaments!

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:55pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:55pm

Flyingduck81 wrote on Sun Nov 16, 2025 2:45pm:

And the main people who can afford them are foreigners, often as holiday homes mainly used in the warmer months so expensive ornaments!

Very true, but that's a different subject and not really relevant to the discussion, tbh.

The point is standards are improving and it seems much better than they were, which can only be a good thing?

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:08pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:08pm

My thread and I think it is totally relevant, they need to be building decent homes that the locals can afford. If you want to start another thread, feel free.

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:15pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:15pm

Flyingduck81 wrote on Sun Nov 16, 2025 5:08pm:

My thread and I think it is totally relevant, they need to be building decent homes that the locals can afford. If you want to start another thread, feel free.

Heh, you're the one who's changed the subject! Why would I want to start a new thread when I'm responding to the one you started?

We were talking about the weather changeability, remember?

Fair enough, I'll leave you to it.

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