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Electronic Certificates 2019 updated

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:46pm
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Electronic Certificates 2019 updated

I’ve read Jim’s guide to electronic certificates. As part of my AESA adventure I require an electronic certificate to have easier access to the authorisation systems. Then I realised I had one, as autonomo AEAT required I register a few years ago.

So I loaded my certificate into FireFox. Nothing happened it appeared as revoked. To revoke a certificate involves the natural expiry date or notifying AEAT. Investigating the problem, FireFox no longer loads Javascript applications since late 2018 version 52.  

I tried Microsoft Edge. Theres no options to add electronic certificates to Edge. Bad Microsoft.

I switched to Internet Explorer imported my certificate and it attempted to work. The fail was my fault. When I registered with AESA I did not use the same name from my certificate. IE. registered as John Smith. My certificate is John Bob Smith. The system recognises the names as different individuals. The warning was this name is is not registered with this NIF number.

I loaded Safari on the Mac. It works, same problem with the certificate. Incorrect name not registered with this NIF number.

Using an electronic certificate in 2019.

Make sure if you have to register with a government website use the same name you registered the certificate.

Ie; John Smith —— X00000000B is not the same as John Bob Smith —— X00000000B. Most of the time the certificate will give automatic access. Some sites are more secure.

Follow Jim’s guide use Internet Explorer. You only have to find the certificates panel, import the certificate, add the password. It’s the easier option. Press Yes a few times in Internet Explorer if required.

Safari OSX - Import the certificate into KeyChains, add the password. Visit the website. Safari will open the certificate then ask permission to run the JavaScript. Don’t panic just press Yes. 

FireFox - use a pre 2018 version that allows JavaScript.

Microsoft Edge - Not compatible with digital signature in the immediate future.


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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:46am

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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 5:46am

That is definitely interesting, and thanks very much for posting. I wasn't aware of the importance of the name - I just assumed it was your NIE/NIF that mattered.

The Javascript problem is a real pain in the neck, and still was last time I needed to get an informe for a car. When I got our original electronic certificates several years ago, I went with FNMT (Ministry of Finance), I failed in Firefox, Internet Explorer and Google Chrome, and the only way I could get the certificates was by installing an old version of Firefox and jumping through a few hoops. After that I was able to export the certificates and install them in the other browsers.

Fortunately the Valencian authority ACCV system made getting the certificates much easier.

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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:55pm

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The names part of the digital certificate. The name and NIE are stored in binary format to authenticate with a server. I use certificates frequently for iOS development. For an Apple device to run a beta/test App I have to insert the App identity number and the iOS device identity number on Apples server. I can add multiple devices identities. Then create a P.12 certificate with all the device identities I want the App to run on. Then add the certificate to the device profiles. If an iOS device is not in in the identity list on the certificate an App will not launch.

Today I went to the AEAT site, SUMA and a few others on the Mac using Safari. The certificate logs me in using my correct name and NIE number.

My problem, with AESA is you have to register your name and NIE (Company name. CIF) before you can access the electronic office. I forgot about my middle name. When AESA tries to verify my certificate Whats on their record doesn’t match the certificate. I have to go back to AESA registration and have my profile amended. Its’s a form of 2 factor identification.


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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:49am

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:49am

That's certainly interesting, and I'll remember for the future. At some point I'll add to my guide that when applying at a town hall or wherever for the code to get an ACCV code, to make sure the person handling it gets your name correct. Fortunately our names were correct, but at various times my name (two christian names) has been mangled by the the bureaucracy involved. In our early days, when an electronic certificate was necessary to do a tax return online, AEAT let me in with the certificate even though my name was initially registered with them incorrectly.

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:00am

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:00am

Interestingly, there's no mention on this thread of trying Google Chrome as the browser.

I've not had any problems using our digital certificates in there, either on my laptop or my Android smartphone.

Any thoughts Jim?

Geoff.

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:27am

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:27am

Hi Geoff - you'll be pleased to know that it's persisting it down here in Spain (and I only topped the pool up a couple of days ago).

There's absolutely no problem with using a certificate in Chrome, but some certificate authorities don't allow the use of Chrome to obtain the certificate in the first place - I've no idea why. 

However, once you've got the certificate, it's easy to install it into Chrome. You can also copy it to your mobile and install it into whatever browser you use there.

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