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ewusc

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:59pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:59pm

yes, you are right. Sorry, for most Germans  is that  the same in language usage.

Sheila64

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:07pm

Thank you 'ewusc'. It is good to hear views from other Europeans. I am in full agreement with you. The majority of immigrants from the UK living in Spain have moved here, not just for the climate, but because of the many things that are wrong in the UK. Although not everything is the fault of the EU, it has certainly been a high contributing factor. Our own politicians are bad enough, and the European Parliament leaders are presently showing there true colours. They will do anything in their powers to stop the UK leaving, because other countries are waiting in line to follow suit. Whilst Brexit can be bad news for us immigrants, we should also think of those trying to lead their lives in the UK.

Villas

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:24pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:24pm

When I moved here, it was without negativity, nothing to do with what's wrong in the UK. The UK is in Europe (geographically). Seperate trade agreements, free movement....etc. That is what's on the table now. As a British European, denied any democratic "say". That is my opinion. Now let's get on with what was voted for...... The problem ( I believe is actually knowing the facts of what was voted for. Now it's all coming out, are we any the wiser?. Open question. V

dinnerout

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:30pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:30pm

Villas wrote on Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:47pm:

For "England" please reference "United" Kindom. Villas.

I don't think there is any need to correct our German contributor. England as a word is in common usage outside the UK and especially in the USA as a term that should be taken to mean UK and is in no way derogatory to the other UK countries. 

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ewusc

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:32pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:32pm

I can not rate British politics, but our German - which is absolutely catastrophic. The main culprit is the government under Mrs. Merkel. Angela Merkels contributed significantly to the Brexit and thus the biggest crisis of the EU so far. In 2013, British Prime Minister David Cameron announced that the British should make a referendum on membership of the EU in 2017. At the same time, he called for a reform of the EU, which should make it less bureaucratic and give Member States more freedom.
Angela Merkel knew that it is in Germany's many interests to keep Britain in the EU - as an important economic partner, as a major net contributor, as a reliable ally against Franco-South European redistribution efforts. She also knew that Germany's skepticism towards the EU has been growing for a long time.
Merkel failed Cameron
Unfortunately, it is the same woman who is also a major contributor to the political content of the EU

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Ray

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:42pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:42pm

When we voted to join the Common Market 40plus years ago it was to Trade. No mention of freedom of movement The EU making our Laws putting £40m a day into the kitty. Building an EU Army.and GB being given orders by a bunch of failed politicians in their own countries.go back to a common market cancel or the above we can stop in .

Villas

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:56pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:56pm

dinnerout wrote on Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:30pm:

I don't think there is any need to correct our German contributor. England as a word is in common usage outside the UK and especially in the USA as a term that should be taken to mean UK and is in no way derogatory to the other UK countries. 

Steve

I believe (in political terms) in view of the subject in discussion...... Ie brexit, the point is valid. V.

Stan Bartolome

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:06pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 3:06pm

Ray wrote on Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:42pm:

When we voted to join the Common Market 40plus years ago it was to Trade. No mention of freedom of movement The EU making our Laws putting £40m a day into the kitty. Building an EU Army.and GB being given orders by a bunch of failed politicians in their own countries.go back to a common market c...

...ancel or the above we can stop in .

So you're bemoaning FoM....having taken advantage of it and moved to Spain?

You people never fail to surprise (& depress) me,

Jeffers26

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:57pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:57pm

ewusc wrote on Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:32pm:

I can not rate British politics, but our German - which is absolutely catastrophic. The main culprit is the government under Mrs. Merkel. Angela Merkels contributed significantly to the Brexit and thus the biggest crisis of the EU so far. In 2013, British Prime Minister David Cameron announced th...

...at the British should make a referendum on membership of the EU in 2017. At the same time, he called for a reform of the EU, which should make it less bureaucratic and give Member States more freedom.
Angela Merkel knew that it is in Germany's many interests to keep Britain in the EU - as an important economic partner, as a major net contributor, as a reliable ally against Franco-South European redistribution efforts. She also knew that Germany's skepticism towards the EU has been growing for a long time.
Merkel failed Cameron
Unfortunately, it is the same woman who is also a major contributor to the political content of the EU

How refreshing to read posts from someone who knows what the EU is all about rather than listening to comments of a silly little boy feeling embarrassed by the UK citizens who voted to leave.

The EU gives power to the unelected bureaucrats without any accountability.It is now turning into a dictatorship in everything but name.We have given up the right to govern ourselves and have no power to remove the people who govern us if we do not agree with their policies.

The present day EU has expanded to become a top heavy political force demanding more financial support year on year to be a member.The explosion in administration has meant that over 90 building complexes have had to be built in Brussels with many more in Strasbourg and Luxembourg.These house over 52 thousand bureaucrats and their staff,over 10 thousand of them are paid more than our prime minister.For democracy to function,people need to know how it works but EU commissioners are not elected and few people know what they do or how the system works.This is intentional and was devised to prevent the mass of people controlling government ever again.

Not being accountable to the public,the bureaucrats have been more than generous to themselves when awarding salaries and perks.Basic salary for one in five is £10,000 more than our PM,who's salary is £149,000.In addition their is:-Relocation allowance,Household allowance,First class travel allowance,Family allowance,Private healthcare allowance to include free VIAGRA which should probably more accurately be included in the Entertainment allowance!These allowances are paid monthly without question.Within the Brussels complex their are private restaurants.bars and shops all selling at preferential rates.No wonder the bureaucrats want to protect their Utopian existence,in his wildest dreams,the ordinary working man couldn't make it up.

These are just a few of the reasons I voted to leave the corrupt,self serving EU.SO LET'S GET ON WITH IT AND GET OUT NOW.

Stan Bartolome

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:02pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:02pm

I got as far as the usual "unelected bureacrats" rubbish and zoned out.

If you're going to tell lies, at least be original.

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