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Do I need residency for a 5 month stay in Altea?

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Posted: Mon Sep 9, 2019 6:27pm
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603lmv

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Location: Altea

Hello

I would appreciate advice please!  My husband and I are planning to spend 5 months in Altea from the beginning of November to escape the British winter.  I understand there is a lot of uncertainty regarding Brexit, but could anyone advise me on whether I need to apply for Spanish Residency for our trip?  We don't need to find work but I have read that we need Residencia for trips of over 90 days, I have also read that many people do not apply for it, but what are the consequences of not doing so?

Any help would be very much appreciated.

sophie16

Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:41pm

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Location: Rojales

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:41pm

Only 90 days allowed now. Has always been the case but spain turns a blind eye. Wont be that way once we leave and passports go through scanner and no residencia shown 

jimtaylor

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Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:53pm

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:53pm

If Brexit doesn't happen before the end of your stay then the length of your stay won't be monitored and you'd get away with exceeding 90 days.

If it happens 31st October, then you'd potentially need a long-term visa before you could move here. Without that then they might not let you in.

603lmv

603lmv

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Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:13pm

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 7:13pm

Many thanks for your replies - just one more question.  Do you think it will make a difference that actually we will have to make a few journeys back to the UK during the 5 months, staying in the UK for anything from a couple of days to a week and then returning?  We could make each stay less than 90 days.

Thanks again, much appreciated!

sophie16

Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32pm

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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 10:32pm

There is no such thing as a long term visa. You are either resident or not. We will be a third country national. If u want to take the risk go for it but the powers that be here are telling everyone to get spanish driving licence NIE Padron and Residencia and sort SIP card for pensioners for health care before brexit. We've been here 12 yrs and done much research and gone through all the procedures

jimtaylor

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:26am

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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:26am

The long-term visa ((visado nacionale, or visado de larga duración) is what is required for non-EU citizens wanting to move to Spain for more than 90 days. Without an agreement to the contrary, this would be required if you moved here post-Brexit.

If you moved whilst the UK are still in the EU, including if there's an agreed transition period, your length of stay wouldn't be monitored.

If length of stay is monitored, then you would be limited to a total of 90 days in any 180, irrespective of how many segments that was comprised of.

603lmv

603lmv

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:36am

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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:36am

Many thanks for all the info, much appreciated.  

sophie16

Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:10pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:10pm

Its always been 90 days but not monitored but the passport control has really tightened up at alicante for the last months. 

sophie16

Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:12pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:12pm

Its 90 days out of every 180 so no. Two visits a year only 

PeteKnight

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Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:32pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:32pm

Some very confusing replies here.

Current situation - technically, after 90 days you should start the residency process. Leaving the country for 1 day resets the clock, so if you want to stay 100% legal then leaving and returning will keep you legal. However as you can cross the land border without your passport being recorded then there is no monitoring.

Post Brexit - if the current proposed position is maintained, then it will be a maximum of 90 days in any rolling 180 day period. Whether this happens immediately, or after some transition period is anybody’s guess, and will depend to a degree if ther is a deal or not. Note that the 90 out of 180 days will apply to the whole of the Schengen zone, so time spent in France, Germany, Italy etc etc will count towards your accumulated time.

Edit - I’d originally written 120 days when I should have written 180 days - a lack of concerntration on my part. Now corrected.

Pete.

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