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Any info on a property for sale

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:40pm
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Marv11

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Hello people of pinar de campoverde 

I’m after your help . We are very much looking forward to being a neighbour of yours someday and have been looking a property in the village and wondered if anyone had any history on it
The property is located in Calle Abeto 19, it’s been empty for a while ans someone started doing some work on it about 2 years ago and then stopped .

Any info would be appreciated . Thanks in advance 

Martin and Tracy 

Kelvin1960

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:10pm

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:10pm

I can go down and peep over the fence tomorrow if you like.  Anything particular you want to know ?

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:26pm

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:26pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:10pm:

I can go down and peep over the fence tomorrow if you like.  Anything particular you want to know ?

Hi . Thank you for that . Much appreciated 

We have already had a number of videos sent of the property , so have seen the current condition thanks . It’s more to do with its history if anyone knows anything 

One thing you or friends might be able to explain with regards to removing / trimming trees . The property has a lot of big pines in the front garden. Can these be removed or trimmed from anyone’s experience 

Thanks again 

M&T 

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:07pm

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Marv11 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:26pm:

Hi . Thank you for that . Much appreciated 

We have already had a number of videos sent of the property , so have seen the current condition thanks . It’s more to do with its history if anyone knows anything 

One thing you or friends might be able to explain with regards to removing / trimming trees . The property has a lot of big pines in the front garden. Can these be removed or trimmed from anyone’s experience 

Thanks again 

M&T 

Sorry, can't help with the history.

Pine trees in Pinar de Campoverde .... planning consent needed for trimming.

You can make an argument for removal if the tree is within 1 metre of the building - but consent needed.

We have been through this ....

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:45pm

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:45pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:07pm:

Sorry, can't help with the history.

Pine trees in Pinar de Campoverde .... planning consent needed for trimming.

You can make an argument for removal if the tree is within 1 metre of the building - but consent needed.

We have been through this ....

Hi.  Thanks for that . Really useful 

Great to hear you’ve been through this .Hope it wasn’t too painful 😳

So if I just wanted to just raise the canopy in most of them would I still need permission 

Also 

If they make the house dark can that be a factor or they are close to the pool in terms of removal / pruning .

do you know the location of the property ? It’s easy to see from the road the challenge 

thanks for the info already 

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:03pm

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Marv11 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:45pm:

Hi.  Thanks for that . Really useful 

Great to hear you’ve been through this .Hope it wasn’t too painful 😳

So if I just wanted to just raise the canopy in most of them would I still need permission 

Also 

If they make the house dark can that be a factor or they are close to the pool in terms of removal / pruning .

do you know the location of the property ? It’s easy to see from the road the challenge 

thanks for the info already 

Our house has 7 large pines.

We had the canopies raised/reduced in early 2018. That needed consent. We asked the question in summer 2017, but the guys who manage the trees are the same guys who manage the beaches, so in summer they are too busy to respond. They came to see the trees in Nov/Dec 17, and the work went ahead in Jan/Feb the following year.

3 years and a wet winter later, we need to do it again. 

Pines are very dirty things. Firstly, early Spring brings clouds of greenish yellow tree pollen. It gets everywhere. Then come the "earwigs" ... the seeds (that resemble earwigs). These fall between late Feb-April. I think our 7 pines produce around a billion earwigs (well, it feels like a billion when we are trying to clear them up). If we don't clear them up, they bock drains, gutters etc. Then come innumerable pine needles (as the summer dries the trees out). These block the drains/gutters. Then come the cones; the squirrels eat the cone seeds and drop the skeletal cones all over the place. Then, there are wood pigeon nests that produce loads of you-know-what, and the same stuff from the squirrels. When it is windy, we get an overload of that month's deposit.

If you think that tree roots are endangering your pool, you might have a chance. 

Pine trees are nice. They are attractive; they provide shade; they diffuse noise. But beware ....

If you want to buy a house with big pine trees, it might be an idea the have the existing owner obtain consent for their management as part of the contract of sale. 

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:26pm

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:26pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:03pm:

Our house has 7 large pines.

We had the canopies raised/reduced in early 2018. That needed consent. We asked the question in summer 2017, but the guys who manage the trees are the same guys who manage the beaches, so in summer they are too busy to respond. They came to see the trees in Nov/Dec 17, and the work went ahead in ...

...Jan/Feb the following year.

3 years and a wet winter later, we need to do it again. 

Pines are very dirty things. Firstly, early Spring brings clouds of greenish yellow tree pollen. It gets everywhere. Then come the "earwigs" ... the seeds (that resemble earwigs). These fall between late Feb-April. I think our 7 pines produce around a billion earwigs (well, it feels like a billion when we are trying to clear them up). If we don't clear them up, they bock drains, gutters etc. Then come innumerable pine needles (as the summer dries the trees out). These block the drains/gutters. Then come the cones; the squirrels eat the cone seeds and drop the skeletal cones all over the place. Then, there are wood pigeon nests that produce loads of you-know-what, and the same stuff from the squirrels. When it is windy, we get an overload of that month's deposit.

If you think that tree roots are endangering your pool, you might have a chance. 

Pine trees are nice. They are attractive; they provide shade; they diffuse noise. But beware ....

If you want to buy a house with big pine trees, it might be an idea the have the existing owner obtain consent for their management as part of the contract of sale. 

Thank you so much for this . That is soooo helpful and useful 

Really appreciate your reply and suggestions 

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:12pm

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Marv11 wrote on Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:26pm:

Thank you so much for this . That is soooo helpful and useful 

Really appreciate your reply and suggestions 

I looked at the plot (as much as I could see from the road). 

Great location. Loads of potential.

The trees (at the front) are part of the streetscape. The local authority will take an interest. 

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:21pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:21pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:12pm:

I looked at the plot (as much as I could see from the road). 

Great location. Loads of potential.

The trees (at the front) are part of the streetscape. The local authority will take an interest. 

Thanks for taking a look 

Yes loads of potential ...... the trees are a challenge .


what’s your thoughts on how far they could be trimmed / removed ...?

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:12pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:12pm

Marv11 wrote on Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:21pm:

Thanks for taking a look 

Yes loads of potential ...... the trees are a challenge .


what’s your thoughts on how far they could be trimmed / removed ...?

The house is shuttered, and appears to have been like this for a while.

The google maps overhead pic is dated 2021, but the street view is 2013.

The trees in the front garden are much bigger than the street view suggests.

Down the boundaries, the trees are thuya/leylandii. These are not protected and can be removed without consent. These trees harbour mosquitoes; your prospective neighbours probably wouldn't mind. Privacy can be restored quite cheaply.

The main trees in the front garden are pines. These are problematic and need consent. I think you would be permitted to lift/reduce the canopies; but this is a temporary fix. The process needs to be repeated periodically (three years in our case).

I only looked over the wall/through the gates from the street. The plot slopes downhill to the rear, and it is difficult to see much. But the google maps overhead pic shows big trees (probably pines) at the back as well. The overhead pic seems to show a pool down at the far end, as the terrain drops into the valley. 

If that pool is beyond repair, I would suggest you put a new pool in at the front, where the aspect is better and there is plenty of room. If you get consent for a pool at the front, the trees could be removed.

  

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