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NLV 30 days in first year?

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 8:21pm
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Hi all. I will ask my Lawyer, but im hearing that if you are in Spain on an NLV, you are only allowed out of Spain for 30 days in the first year. I was told that so long as you are in Spain for more than 183 days in the year and thus a Fiscal Resident, then all is good! Any advice appreciated - thanks.

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 11:46pm

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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 11:46pm

Paul2109 wrote on Fri May 20, 2022 8:21pm:

Hi all. I will ask my Lawyer, but im hearing that if you are in Spain on an NLV, you are only allowed out of Spain for 30 days in the first year. I was told that so long as you are in Spain for more than 183 days in the year and thus a Fiscal Resident, then all is good! Any advice appreciated - t...

...hanks.

Just wondering how they would know? I would imagine that the most important thing is that you're Spanish tax resident.

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 2:01am

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 2:01am

Paul2109 wrote on Fri May 20, 2022 8:21pm:

Hi all. I will ask my Lawyer, but im hearing that if you are in Spain on an NLV, you are only allowed out of Spain for 30 days in the first year. I was told that so long as you are in Spain for more than 183 days in the year and thus a Fiscal Resident, then all is good! Any advice appreciated - t...

...hanks.

Have a look here, it might help:

https://www.immigrationspain.es/en/maximum-time-outside-spain-without-losing-residency/

Also here:

max days outside of spain prior to permanent residency

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:07am

PeterPan wrote on Fri May 20, 2022 11:46pm:

Just wondering how they would know? I would imagine that the most important thing is that you're Spanish tax resident.

Not sure that "wondering how would they know" ranks as a solid base for starting a new life in another country?

Paul2109

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:34am

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:34am

PeterPan wrote on Fri May 20, 2022 11:46pm:

Just wondering how they would know? I would imagine that the most important thing is that you're Spanish tax resident.

By the entry/exit stamps in your passport, I assume.

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:54am

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 8:54am

Thanks. Im still a little confused, though by the explanation in the link as it doesn't fully explain if the 'sporadic' entry/exit is 30 days at a time (obviously not to exceed the 183 day limit) or 30 days total. Guess its one for my Lawyer.

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 12:41pm

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Those who got Residency pre-Brexit are allowed to do  roughly 6 months in each country ( UK and Spain), but need to be in Spain for 183 days or more for fiscal reasons each year.
Those that came post Brexit on the NLV can stay a maximum of 6 months (less than 183 days) in any one of the first 5 years but can only stay out of Spain for a maximum of 10 months in total over those 5 years.
It seems you have got information from both situations but not sure where the 30 days has come from.

Paul2109

Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 12:56pm

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 12:56pm

Cheryl wrote on Sat May 21, 2022 12:41pm:

Those who got Residency pre-Brexit are allowed to do  roughly 6 months in each country ( UK and Spain), but need to be in Spain for 183 days or more for fiscal reasons each year.
Those that came post Brexit on the NLV can stay a maximum of 6 months (less than 183 days) in any one of the f...

...irst 5 years but can only stay out of Spain for a maximum of 10 months in total over those 5 years.
It seems you have got information from both situations but not sure where the 30 days has come from.

Thanks Cheryl. The info came from a friend, who was told it by their Lawyer. Also, if you look at the link 'Tebo53' sent to me, you will see why I have a concern. I think it's meant to be interpreted as max of 30 days at any one time, but obviously not to exceed the 183 day minimum stay period. I think my friends Lawyer interpretes as 30 days in the year -  full stop - which can't be correct, otherwise why have the 183 minimum stay statement?

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 1:43pm

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Posted: Sat May 21, 2022 1:43pm

Paul2109 wrote on Sat May 21, 2022 12:56pm:

Thanks Cheryl. The info came from a friend, who was told it by their Lawyer. Also, if you look at the link 'Tebo53' sent to me, you will see why I have a concern. I think it's meant to be interpreted as max of 30 days at any one time, but obviously not to exceed the 183 day minimum stay period. I...

... think my friends Lawyer interpretes as 30 days in the year -  full stop - which can't be correct, otherwise why have the 183 minimum stay statement?

Yes, brain just picked up the relevance of the 30 days!

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 9:37am

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Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 9:37am

Paul2109 wrote on Sat May 21, 2022 8:34am:

By the entry/exit stamps in your passport, I assume.

You don't get entry/exit stamps as a Spanish resident.

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