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Mrmike

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:25pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:25pm

John56 wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:15pm:

That does not answer my question as to the source of your comment that it is in the new rules a mask must be worn.

Sorry I thought you were referring to the DIY face masks. As I have just written I have not found that article that I read yesterday and as my Spanish is nowhere near perfect I may well have misinterpreted it. If this is the case I apologise.

If your Spanish is good, check with the local GC office.

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:45pm

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All the countries that have “flattened the curve” seem to have universal mask wearing. We’re told it prevents spread of droplets from a sick person rather than protecting  the wearer from infection, but it seems to me (just a layperson), it might reduce viral load, which is possibly linked to less severe illness. The Lancet has a paper on the viral load hypothesis. I would wear a mask to protect both myself and others. 

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Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:34pm

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John56 wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:15pm:

That does not answer my question as to the source of your comment that it is in the new rules a mask must be worn.

The rules about outdoors/ cars are one thing...

Until the people in OUR homes become sick and need to further isolate to protect the rest.  
The sick person by wearing A mask could help the other persons in the home not to get sick.  
Delay time so one can recover and in turn provide care to the next sick person.   

As soon as that  mask becomes moist, another clean one is needed.  Count.

There are NO proper masks widely available to general public.

Find a way to provide protection.  That is the only rule needed. 

Stay at home.  

Villas

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:13am

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:13am

Alternative mask:

MeathMaria

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:05am

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 9:05am

Villas, that’s best one so far.     🙌

It’s Rosado for me  🥂🌞

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Villas

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:07pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:07pm

Masks at home. Lockdown & locked out

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LeckyLes

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:17pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:17pm

Villas wrote on Tue Mar 24, 2020 7:07pm:

Masks at home. Lockdown & locked out

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Villas, that is a 'Lager' than life scenario 

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tvtechnology

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:57am

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:57am

I think also worth a mention, that you can get the virus through your eyes - so if someone coughs/sneezes and you are wearing a mask, then there's still a reasonable chance, it will hit your eyeballs.

Wear your glasses/sunglasses to add another layer of protection.

Some people are wearing surgical gloves when shopping, which is fine, but they still carry bacteria, so turn them inside out as you take them off and don't dump them outside a supermarket for someone else to clean up (seen a few pictures of this).

Alternative mask?

Whilst the mask on the below link is clearly not intended for medical use - i'm looking at this and thinking it will do the job? It covers your face and your mouth 100% does not let any air in the front - your air intake is facing behind you, so people can't give you anything by coughing directly in your face. The negatives are, it looks daft, but you can get presently in less than a week  https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B07PPFY12J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=cstareg0f-21  might need minor modification, such as a little filtering material in the air inlet.

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:13am

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:13am

tvtechnology wrote on Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:57am:

I think also worth a mention, that you can get the virus through your eyes - so if someone coughs/sneezes and you are wearing a mask, then there's still a reasonable chance, it will hit your eyeballs.

Wear your glasses/sunglasses to add another layer of protection.

Some people are wearing surgical gloves when shopping, which is fine, but they still carry bacteria, so turn them inside out as you take them off and don't dump them outside a supermarket for someone else to clean up (seen a few pictures of this).

Alternative mask?

Whilst the mask on the below link is clearly not intended for medical use - i'm looking at this and thinking it will do the job? It covers your face and your mouth 100% does not let any air in the front - your air intake is facing behind you, so people can't give you anything by coughing directly in your face. The negatives are, it looks daft, but you can get presently in less than a week  https://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B07PPFY12J/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=cstareg0f-21  might need minor modification, such as a little filtering material in the air inlet.

I am NO expert, but understand anyone carrying a virus, cold, flu, covid-19 or whatever who inadvertently plants their voluntary or involuntary act that clears the throat and breathing passage of foreign particles, microbes, irritants, fluids, and mucus; it is a rapid expulsion of air from the lungs.But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes. Finally, any that settles on spectacles, masks or clothing therefore can be continually inhaled (after the incident) by the person wearing them/it. ie: clean hands, masks and glasses asap. 

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:26am

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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:26am

Villas wrote on Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:13am:

I am NO expert, but understand anyone carrying a virus, cold, flu, covid-19 or whatever who inadvertently plants their voluntary or involuntary act that clears the throat and breathing passage of foreign particles, microbes, irritants, fluids, and mucus; it is a rapid expulsion of air from t...

...he lungs.But according to research by scientists at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, it’s not just the person next to us we should worry about: coughing spreads droplets as far as six metres, and sneezing as much as eight metres. These droplets stay suspended in the air for up to 10 minutes. Finally, any that settles on spectacles, masks or clothing therefore can be continually inhaled (after the incident) by the person wearing them/it. ie: clean hands, masks and glasses asap. 

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I know you are only quoting - but there's one thing i've heard repeatedly which in my mind I can't see being true, unless someone can explain otherwise.

How can droplets stay suspended in the air for 10 minutes? Water is heavier than air and we live on a planet with gravity. For droplets to remain in the air for 10 mins - surely you would need to be in a total vacuum or outer space!

Also the sneeze of 8 metres - really? Again I think this is an exaggerated claim - perhaps 2 or so metres which seems to be what most saying - but 8 metres is over 26 feet, again you'd need to be in the 'perfect enviroment' no air or wind movement and even then, why is the WHO and everyone else saying 2 metres?

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