Held hostage by your own government? - Page 2

Totally agree Boris and Govt locking us into UK holidays-keeping our money here!We live in Devon and our County and Cornwall are FULL! The UK cannot cope with such high numbers of holiday makers.We have a VW camper ,so many sites at capacity and so many would normally be all over Europe.We have been away from our house in Spain for nearly 12 months now and the Spanish want us back! Yet another Eurotunnel changed booking now we hope to get back on 9 July both of us had double vaccine,camper road trip,Aires,minimal contact buy still all those tests and quarantine, upon.return really??!Let us hope Spain goes green as better infection rate than UK again.Good luck to Ryanair,and travel industry who have started a legal action against UK Govetnment as NO transparency on process to decide which country qualifies as green?

A good friend of mine in the UK told me his sister in law is on a ventilator in a UK hospital with the Indian variant. She isn't Indian and has had two jabs, so fully vaccinated.

I don't think we are out of the woods yet, despite the EU opening the sluice gates.

Sorry to hear that.

This issue for Spain (and the rest of the EU) to contemplate ... we're entering the family holiday period. Although the UK has done well with the vaccines, the Delta variant (as your post shows) is a bit of an unknown. Families contain younger people/children who haven't been vaccinated, and who might carry the variant to Spain/the EU, where vaccination is less advanced.

It’s a psycho-social tactic called ‘nudge’. It’s favoured by governments who don’t actually like to be seen as passing laws that directly forbid people from doing things. Instead they create a prohibitive environment, financial restrictions, peer pressures and traffic light confusion to intimidate citizens to do their bidding. 

But, take a closer look and right from the start all these duplicitous politicians have done exactly what they wanted. How else would Boris get Covid? How else would Cummings travel to Durham and get away with it? Why would two cabinet ministers travel to watch football in Portugal knowing they would turn Portugal amber days later? UK is currently operating as the largest open prison in the world apart from North Korea.

Not bad for a Tory government who’s underlying principle is one of laissez-faire , the belief that individuals should be allowed to make their own way in life without state intervention. 

Interested to know the relevance of whether or not she is Indian!

The fact that it is called the Indian strain suggests that it started there just like the so called Kent strain, Unfortunately whilst India was suffering badly from this strain the U.K. government did not shut down it's borders to India until 4 weeks after their peak therefore allowing thousands of people to enter this country from India with many without doubt having this strain and passing it on to others in the U.K.

Aware of that thanks but still unclear about the relevance of whether she is Indian or not.

I wonder if we will see more of these type of cases, vaccinated people falling very ill with new variants. This is what happened with previous Covid vaccination efforts - in animals and non-genetic vaccines. Covid vaccines seem to be particularly tricky to produce safely. Researchers call it Antibody-Dependent Enhancement.  

... and G7; no quarantine, social distancing, no masks. 

As you say, it is control through manipulation and  make-believe - for a libertarian government.

We will. That is why we need to vaccinate the world to suppress disease levels and reduce its opportunities / probability of mutation.

Vaccination will always be cat and mouse. True breakthroughs will be broad spectrum treatments for viruses that aren't too fussed about variants.