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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:16pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:16pm

Peacock wrote on Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:47am:

So why are they doing this to push people into having them if they won't protect?  A lot more have had them in the last few weeks due to threats of this happening. The courts in other areas refused it. The jab apparently has less protection for the new variants especially this new South Afri...

...can one. South Africa overcome with it.

I can only imagine that if the vaccination lessens the effects of the plague on anyone infected, fewer of those infected will be hospitalised. This in turn will mean that there will be more capacity for those who are ill with other ailments. 

It won't stop you getting it and it won't stop you infecting others. 

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:09pm

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Peacock wrote on Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:47am:

So why are they doing this to push people into having them if they won't protect?  A lot more have had them in the last few weeks due to threats of this happening. The courts in other areas refused it. The jab apparently has less protection for the new variants especially this new South Afri...

...can one. South Africa overcome with it.

Of the currently approved Covid vaccines, the highest efficacy rate is Pfizer-BioNTech at 91.3%.  None of the vaccines offer 100% protection against contracting the virus or passing it on to others, but very importantly they significantly reduce the danger of severe disease and the potential for dying from the virus.  At the moment, scientists are saying there is insufficient data to categorically say whether this new 'Omicron' variant is more dangerous than 'Delta'.  In the meantime, vaccinations combined with the proper use of face masks, hand washing/sanitizing, restricting numbers in enclosed spaces (and refreshing the air circulation in those places), is what we can all do to help protect ourselves and each other.

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:31pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:31pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:09pm:

Of the currently approved Covid vaccines, the highest efficacy rate is Pfizer-BioNTech at 91.3%.  None of the vaccines offer 100% protection against contracting the virus or passing it on to others, but very importantly they significantly reduce the danger of severe disease and the potential...

... for dying from the virus.  At the moment, scientists are saying there is insufficient data to categorically say whether this new 'Omicron' variant is more dangerous than 'Delta'.  In the meantime, vaccinations combined with the proper use of face masks, hand washing/sanitizing, restricting numbers in enclosed spaces (and refreshing the air circulation in those places), is what we can all do to help protect ourselves and each other.

Spot on 👍👍

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:55pm

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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:55pm

Peacock wrote on Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:47am:

So why are they doing this to push people into having them if they won't protect?  A lot more have had them in the last few weeks due to threats of this happening. The courts in other areas refused it. The jab apparently has less protection for the new variants especially this new South Afri...

...can one. South Africa overcome with it.

It is less likely that you will become seriously ill, be hospitised, or die if you are fully vaccinated.

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:13am

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 10:13am

Peacock wrote on Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:33am:

Depends on a lot of things. Only needs one who hasn't had the jab. Someone not wearing a mask at the table etc etc. I am sure majority of brits have had the jab and it's brits who book the majority all the Xmas festivities group bookings etc. Its them who could lose their celebrations if 50% occu...

...pancy comes back as those bookings made a while back and the bars suffer again. There are grinches in Spain too ! 

Having the jab( vaccination) doesn’t stop you getting covid or passing it on! But it is designed to help you fight it off and to stop us taking up hospital places.

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Peacock

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:05pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:05pm

Mm as the Spanish dont celebrate Xmas it seems it will only affect foreigners who will have booked lots of Xmas meals but it will be lifted in the for the Spanish to celebrate 3 Kings day. Strange that huh

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:28pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:28pm

Peacock wrote on Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:05pm:

Mm as the Spanish dont celebrate Xmas it seems it will only affect foreigners who will have booked lots of Xmas meals but it will be lifted in the for the Spanish to celebrate 3 Kings day. Strange that huh

Hi Peacock,

If you think the Spanish don't celebrate Christmas, I assume you're not resident here?  Spanish families typically eat their main meal together on Christmas Eve, before going to Midnight Mass.  While Epiphany (the Three Kings festival) on 6 January is the main day for children to receive presents, many younger Spaniards with children prefer to exchange gifts on Christmas Day, because the youngsters still have a long break from school.

Kind regards,

Kim

Peacock

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:21pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:21pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Nov 29, 2021 5:28pm:

Hi Peacock,

If you think the Spanish don't celebrate Christmas, I assume you're not resident here?  Spanish families typically eat their main meal together on Christmas Eve, before going to Midnight Mass.  While Epiphany (the Three Kings festival) on 6 January is the main day for children to receiv...

...e presents, many younger Spaniards with children prefer to exchange gifts on Christmas Day, because the youngsters still have a long break from school.

Kind regards,

Kim

I've been here for 15 years and yes they do a lot of family and church stuff around actual Xmas but they do not go out for Xmas meals and entertainment like we do and start beginning of Dec and book in Oct. There is no mention of churches. As for private residences as if the police are going to be checking those. I've never seen Spanish having Xmas meals in groups and we're out and about all the time. 

RayBenidorm

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:00pm

Peacock wrote on Mon Nov 29, 2021 6:21pm:

I've been here for 15 years and yes they do a lot of family and church stuff around actual Xmas but they do not go out for Xmas meals and entertainment like we do and start beginning of Dec and book in Oct. There is no mention of churches. As for private residences as if the police are going to b...

...e checking those. I've never seen Spanish having Xmas meals in groups and we're out and about all the time. 

You do not see them as they have it at home not in a restaurant..

RayBenidorm

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:02pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:02pm

They are also recommending for the family members to go to the pharmacy and purchase covid test kits to reduce tramsmissions during this festive period.

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