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The Spanish economy is unlikely to collapse without British tourists. The tourism sector is approximately 11% of GDP (I read this in a UK financial article last year), although it appears much greater to those in the Costa Blanca and further south due to the concentration of foreign residents of all varieties. There is a large industrial base in Catalonia as well as a large agricultural industry. So although of course any exodus of foreign tourists and consequently their cash will be noticed, the main effect would only be felt really to any extent in this one area.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:14pm
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Stephanie86 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:14pm:
The Spanish economy is unlikely to collapse without British tourists. The tourism sector is approximately 11% of GDP (I read this in a UK financial article last year), although it appears much greater to those in the Costa Blanca and further south due to the concentration of foreign residents of ...
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...all varieties. There is a large industrial base in Catalonia as well as a large agricultural industry. So although of course any exodus of foreign tourists and consequently their cash will be noticed, the main effect would only be felt really to any extent in this one area.
Beside the Brits are not the only tourists Spain gets people from all over Europe even Asia and America coming here for vacation
So it would not be that bad as far as the Spanish economy is concerned
Also in a year or two when this pandemic is under control (I hope), the people from UK will return as they have done for many many years
As the two weeks holiday in the sun is not going to be affected by the Brexit at all, and those of us who are legal resident will carry on living here as before not much will change
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:34pm
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Trucker2lawyer wrote on Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:07pm:
Paolo51
Well said ..someone who fully understands what I am getting at....how many people actually understand law or European law...EU law is always open to interpretation...the only clarity in law is the Magna Carta... and they are trying to rewrite that...
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History is the best recorded record of events...Britain's decision to Brexit was never the ordinary man's choice (though he might think so) much more powerful forces made that decision...why then ? The reasons are many but not least the fact that the decision makers seek a return to a Feudal system combined with the reality that the power of Westminster was gradually slipping away and many MPs that would soon be looking for new jobs.
Most of government was opposed to Brexit so not quite sure what you mean unfortunately.
It was indeed the common man that voted to leave, even those with properties abroad. The high numbers of voters that turned out for the democratic Brexit vote and gave it a clear majority were your man in the street. And again those common people turned out for a second time, for the General election, having to vote for Conservatives, even if staunch Labour supporters, as Conservatives were the only party guaranteeing that the democratic vote on Brexit would be upheld. This showed that people value democracy above all the other factors (including whether for or against Brexit) - thank goodness!
The common man voted for Brexit because their lives in their home country, the UK, were being so adversely affected by the EU rules imposed, that they were willing to accept there would be inevitable pains to suffer in many ways, by leaving the EU. But with the sincere belief that eventually, the ongoing steep decline in their quality of life at home in the UK would at least slow down, if not stop or improve. The problems around their second home paled in comparison.
People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:58pm
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Leafy211 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:34pm:
Most of government was opposed to Brexit so not quite sure what you mean unfortunately.
It was indeed the common man that voted to leave, even those with properties abroad. The high numbers of voters that turned out for the democratic Brexit vote and gave it a clear majority were your man in the street. And again those common people turned out for a second time, for the Genera...
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...l election, having to vote for Conservatives, even if staunch Labour supporters, as Conservatives were the only party guaranteeing that the democratic vote on Brexit would be upheld. This showed that people value democracy above all the other factors (including whether for or against Brexit) - thank goodness!
The common man voted for Brexit because their lives in their home country, the UK, were being so adversely affected by the EU rules imposed, that they were willing to accept there would be inevitable pains to suffer in many ways, by leaving the EU. But with the sincere belief that eventually, the ongoing steep decline in their quality of life at home in the UK would at least slow down, if not stop or improve. The problems around their second home paled in comparison.
People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole.
With respect Leafy, your post is just a long celebration of Brexit, but the subject of the original post was what the impact and implications will be after Brexit.
Leafy211 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:34pm:
Most of government was opposed to Brexit so not quite sure what you mean unfortunately.
It was indeed the common man that voted to leave, even those with properties abroad. The high numbers of voters that turned out for the democratic Brexit vote and gave it a clear majority were your man in the street. And again those common people turned out for a second time, for the Genera...
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...l election, having to vote for Conservatives, even if staunch Labour supporters, as Conservatives were the only party guaranteeing that the democratic vote on Brexit would be upheld. This showed that people value democracy above all the other factors (including whether for or against Brexit) - thank goodness!
The common man voted for Brexit because their lives in their home country, the UK, were being so adversely affected by the EU rules imposed, that they were willing to accept there would be inevitable pains to suffer in many ways, by leaving the EU. But with the sincere belief that eventually, the ongoing steep decline in their quality of life at home in the UK would at least slow down, if not stop or improve. The problems around their second home paled in comparison.
People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole.
Hello
This paragraph makes me laugh.....
"People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole".
The members of my family who voted for Brexit are exactly the opposite to what you say. They didn't weigh up the pros & cons, they were absolutely mindless & allowed themselves to be conned by the government, totally regret their decision & dread the future in their 3rd nation country!
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dinnerout wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:03pm:
"because it as an EU state member must always take its orders via the various non elected bodies that steer Europe"
The Original Poster has betrayed his agenda with this reference in the first paragraph of the post.
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The prevalence of Covid in both the EU and in the UK is distorting and magnifying the current situation.
Once Covid is under control we will see a clearer picture emerging which allows a better comparison to be made between the effects on Spain and the effects on the UK. Things will settle down.
The OP makes reference to the number of cafes and bars closed in Spain but fails to balance that opinion by mentioning the number of bars, cafes and restaurants currently closed or at risk of closure in the UK.
There seems to be a notion among some that Spain will become the new Venezuela without the British pound.
Does he think that British people will suddenly stop taking holidays in Spain? The number one most popular holiday destination for British people? Given that the requirements for holiday travel to Spain are the same as they are for any other European short haul destination I can't see that happening.
Certainly fewer British people may seek to buy property in Spain, and some existing owners may seek to sell. It remains to be seen what effect that may have on the overall property market but I suspect the prophets of doom may be disappointed.
What I do know, is that many people who voted Leave wish to see the EU collapse - as if the Leave vote was not quite enough to satisfy their hate for the EU - but again I think they will be disappointed.
it's the idea that freedom of movement across a continent is a bad thing that i will never uderstand
- the clue is in the title "freedom"
on the bright side as soon as we opened our villa for bookings, summer 2021 was fully booked within a week and they were all uk guests
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:15pm
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elinspain wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05pm:
Hello
This paragraph makes me laugh.....
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"People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole".
The members of my family who voted for Brexit are exactly the opposite to what you say. They didn't weigh up the pros & cons, they were absolutely mindless & allowed themselves to be conned by the government, totally regret their decision & dread the future in their 3rd nation country!
Ahh that is a shame .. but there were effectively two Brexit votes .. the brexit vote and then the closely followed general election. Both clear in their outcome. There will never be a time when everyone is happy, however the importance of democracy should be some consolation that didnt get the outcome they would have preferred.
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:23pm
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Leafy211 wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:15pm:
Ahh that is a shame .. but there were effectively two Brexit votes .. the brexit vote and then the closely followed general election. Both clear in their outcome. There will never be a time when everyone is happy, however the importance of democracy should be some consolation that didnt get...
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... the outcome they would have preferred.
This shouldn't be a platform for pro or anti Brexit rants. Unless the OP was stirring in the hope of another Brexit carnage thread (which is certainly possible), we should concentrate on what the implications will be, not why it happened.
elinspain wrote on Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05pm:
Hello
This paragraph makes me laugh.....
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"People that voted for Brexit should be given some credit that they weighed up the pros and cons and werent mindless sheep ... they thought about not just themselves but about the country as a whole".
The members of my family who voted for Brexit are exactly the opposite to what you say. They didn't weigh up the pros & cons, they were absolutely mindless & allowed themselves to be conned by the government, totally regret their decision & dread the future in their 3rd nation country!
The person who quoted that funny paragraph is a typical uninformed Brit, like the rest of the sheep who fell for that cone of a slogan on that famous bus
And these people have no regards for the 48% of the population who were intelligent enough to know that voting yes was like shooting one’s foot
It’s done now and the real pain and hard times are ahead for those so called common man in the street who without any knowledge of global economy and global village which the world operates voted like sheep would do
I hope people of Scotland detach themselves from this con engineered by the rich and powerful and remain part of EU, as this union had endured there is peace and stability in whole of Europe
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:22pm
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Hi Leafy,
I disagree about the referendum and, to some extent, about the General Election - I don't call 3.8% a "clear majority", but I'm not surprised that the G.E. returned the Conservatives, when the alternative was Jeremy Corbyn. But that's been and gone and, as you say, democracy has been upheld - whether individual voters made an informed choice or not, that is their right.
As a Remainer, naturally I'm not happy about leaving the EU, but the biggest frustration for me has been not getting a clear understanding from a Leaver's viewpoint. So I was pleased to see your comment, "The common man voted for Brexit because their lives in their home country, the UK, were being so adversely affected by the EU rules....." and I'd be really interested to hear which EU rules you feel so adversely affected the UK?
Assuming that the OP's post was not mischief-making, I think your view, as a Leaver and the owner of a property in the EU, could offer an interesting perspective on the original post.
Kind regards,
Kim
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