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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 7:27am
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Martyn1986

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Morning i know i posted about this before but after further reading and findings im wondering, how will this affect the tourism industry, is this just temporary messures due to pandemic or are the spanish government just not wanting brits here? Apparently the hotels are set to open and are fully booked, will they also be turned away, will they need a visa? A sign that says no TIE no entry, its seems to be just spain and doing this

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/plane-full-expats-kicked-out-20309155

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 9:14am

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 9:14am

Morning, as for your question i am sure there are many thousands that would like to know the answer to it however the situation is ever changing with conflicting advice and media stories on the go, mid March Spanish newspapers were telling us Brit tourists would be welcome back from the 30th then i believe things were changed, i seem to remember Alex (admin) put up a link with the current set of "rules" for entry, are the restrictions on entering Spain due to brexit or covid, who would know, your link refers to Brits being refused entry if no TIE card so this would suggest its more brexit related, i say this as i have heard German tourist are arriving in Spain though i think they are limited to the islands and Germany has far worse covid outbreak at the moment. I should think restricting Brit travel into Spain will see Spanish business suffer even more and i do feel sorry for those business owners that have sunk everything into their dream. As for the Brit tourists i am pretty sure they will find other countries if Spain decides it does not want them, i would imagine plenty of countries will be more than happy to see Brit tourist money injected into their economy.

Guess we can only bide our time until things settle down and a clearer picture emerges. 

EDIT: found the post by Alex (Admin), see link below, might be of interest.

Posted by Alex on Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:01pm in Coronavirus discussion

Permitted reasons to enter Spain after 30 March 2021


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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 9:22am

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 9:22am

The restrictions to entry are because of the pandemic. It's just unfortunate that this has coincided with Brexit, somewhat complicating these restrictions and people thinking it's because we are now a Third Country Nation.

It isn't. Its Spains answer to stopping the spread of Coronavirus and associated variants.

I imagine Spain will welcome UK tourists with open arms when they deem it safe to do so.

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 10:22am

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 10:22am

Robnew wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 9:22am:

The restrictions to entry are because of the pandemic. It's just unfortunate that this has coincided with Brexit, somewhat complicating these restrictions and people thinking it's because we are now a Third Country Nation.

It isn't. Its Spains answer to stopping the spread of Coronavirus and associated variants....

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I imagine Spain will welcome UK tourists with open arms when they deem it safe to do so.

Sure your right, i doubt they can afford not to.

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 11:23am

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 11:23am

RobertBB wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 10:22am:

Sure your right, i doubt they can afford not to.

I agree with both comments except for one thing and its always something ive disagreed on, i dont believe spain needs UK tourism to have a good income because the british areas are actually the poorest, counties like basque and catalonia have the lowest rate of British tourists and earn the most money for spain. However its a shame driving round and seeing empty streets and bars, although up in the spanish areas the bars are full, people need to earn a living and its nice to see mix countries socialising.

I was hoping to go back to UK in summer but worried a may not get back, my kids go to school here and have an Italian passport so i maybe ok but i have only my green credit card size residencia 

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 1:01pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 1:01pm

Morning Martyn

I’m inclined to agree with Rob; that the current difficulties to entry are Covid based. For all the recent hype about Brits being turned away, I’ve not seen one quote or report that the person turned away was legally resident in Spain; just that they were turned away.

If you are a legal resident of Spain, which you are, I believe you would have no difficulty returning after a stay in the U.K. 

I’m sure the Costas will welcome tourists from wherever, and I don’t believe the UK’s love affair with Spain is over. Holiday makers are the least affected by the U.K’s exit from the EU, as, for them, nothing has changed. Understandably, Spain is choosing to exercise caution for a little longer.

As you say, empty street and shops, primarily in tourist areas, make for sad viewing 🤪🥂

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 1:39pm

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Angebadge wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 1:01pm:

Morning Martyn

I’m inclined to agree with Rob; that the current difficulties to entry are Covid based. For all the recent hype about Brits being turned away, I’ve not seen one quote or report that the person turned away was legally resident in Spain; just that they were turned away.

If you are a legal resident of Spain, which you are, I believe you would have no difficulty returning after a stay in the U.K. 

I’m sure the Costas will welcome tourists from wherever, and I don’t believe the UK’s love affair with Spain is over. Holiday makers are the least affected by the U.K’s exit from the EU, as, for them, nothing has changed. Understandably, Spain is choosing to exercise caution for a little longer.

As you say, empty street and shops, primarily in tourist areas, make for sad viewing 🤪🥂

I agree. The paper did say though that the man interviewed had his documents to collect, hopefully its just covid causing the iusse.... My next comment will probably annoy alot of people but no offense is intended. 

If people with second homes are just coming for a holiday and aren't fully legal then personally i don't the harm in waiting in the UK until spain opens up again and fully back the spanish for enforcing it, there is a pandemic on and people wanting a holiday should take that into consideration, i personally want to go on holiday to the UK but won't do if there are restrictions in place and i will unfortunately have to wait for a holiday aswel. 

However, if second homeowners are legally entitled to be here then they have every right to be here and shouldn't be sent back. Tbf the article said the plane was full and 40 were sent back so maybe more to it.... Remember there are 3 sides to every side of the story, their side, your side and the truth 

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:04pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:04pm

Martyn1986 wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 1:39pm:

I agree. The paper did say though that the man interviewed had his documents to collect, hopefully its just covid causing the iusse.... My next comment will probably annoy alot of people but no offense is intended. 

If people with second homes are just coming for a holiday and aren't fully legal then personally i don't the harm in waiting in the UK until spain opens up again and fully back the spanish for enforcing it, there is a pandemic on and people wanting a holiday should take that into consideration, i...

... personally want to go on holiday to the UK but won't do if there are restrictions in place and i will unfortunately have to wait for a holiday aswel. 

However, if second homeowners are legally entitled to be here then they have every right to be here and shouldn't be sent back. Tbf the article said the plane was full and 40 were sent back so maybe more to it.... Remember there are 3 sides to every side of the story, their side, your side and the truth 

As a second home owner, I’m not offended, I agree.

Every country will determine what the rules/conditions of entry are, I’m guessing based on their current “covid status”

My thoughts on the “full” plane are that there are so few planes flying into Spain, with many cancelled flights, that the ones that are taking off are going to be well subscribed. My neighbour in Spain has been in the U.K. since late December. She finally managed to get on a flight from Gatwick on Friday. She had booked 4/5 flights that were subsequently cancelled. She states that some were denied boarding. I’ve just text her to ask if she got any sense of the reasons why. 🤪🥂

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:18pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:18pm

Angebadge wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:04pm:

As a second home owner, I’m not offended, I agree.

Every country will determine what the rules/conditions of entry are, I’m guessing based on their current “covid status”

My thoughts on the “full” plane are that there are so few planes flying into Spain, with many cancelled flights, that the ones that are taking off are going to be well subscribed. My neighbour in Spain has been in the U.K. since late December. She finally managed to get on a flight from Gatwick on Friday. She had booked 4/5 flights that were subsequently cancelled. She states that some were denied boarding. I’ve just text her to ask if she got any sense of the reasons why. 🤪🥂

Its strange though because people dont seem to be having a problem driving, so why its airports Turing people away i have no idea 

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:40pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:40pm

Martyn1986 wrote on Sun Apr 4, 2021 2:18pm:

Its strange though because people dont seem to be having a problem driving, so why its airports Turing people away i have no idea 

And, if this is still happening, probably the reason why people are either confused, or feel they are able to still fly 

My neighbour has just replied. She was chatting with a female, returning to Gran Alicant to finalise the sale of her house, with the agent meeting her at the airport. When they arrived at Alicante, she, along with others, was refused entry, as not a legal resident of Spain. 🤪🥂

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