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Im a UK citizen and own a property in cabo roig which I rent out and use myself for holidays. Up til now I've paid 24% tax on my rental earnings. But now I have irish citizenship too so I would like to know how I can go about registering for the lower rate of tax as an EU citizen. Do I need to get an Irish passport as well? Will I need to change my NIE number? And how? Can anyone advise please? Thanks Mary
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:32am
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Unfortunately as a non resident it is not the passport you hold that determines the % rate of tax you pay in Spain or any other EU/EEA country but the country of your permanent residence. As you still live permanently in a non EU/EEA member state you will be subject to 24% tax rate:
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:53am
John123456 wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:32am:
Unfortunately as a non resident it is not the passport you hold that determines the % rate of tax you pay in Spain or any other EU/EEA country but the country of your permanent residence. As you still live permanently in a non EU/EEA member state you will be subject to 24% tax rate:
Then why have so many Britishpeople applied for Irish citizenship?
marydoyle1 wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:53am:
Then why have so many Britishpeople applied for Irish citizenship?
Because with an Irish passport they can use the EU lane at border control and their passports are not stamped.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:54am
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marydoyle1 wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:53am:
Then why have so many Britishpeople applied for Irish citizenship?
An Irish passport enables you to 'get around' the 90/180 rule which British passport holders are subject to. I understand the Republic is significantly tightening eligibility on this.
Technically EU country passport holders should register their presence with the Policia Nacional after exceeding 90 days although many come and go without penalty for failing to do so.
Be aware that spending more than 183 days in Spain in one year makes you a fiscal resident of Spain and liable to file a tax return in Spain by June following the year of Residency (The tax year in Spain is Jan-Dec).
Your NIE number is assigned permanently, the number never expires regardless of being resident or non resident.
Steve
Ps, I do hope you have a Tourist Letting Licence if you're doing holiday lets 😎
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Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:10am
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marydoyle1 wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2024 8:53am:
Then why have so many Britishpeople applied for Irish citizenship?
Yes and the main reason for this is ease of travel within the EU/EEA and no visa required if you want to live in the EU/EEA. UK passport holders require visas, which in some circumstances are difficult to obtain.
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2024 11:29am
dinnerout wrote on Sat Nov 23, 2024 10:54am:
An Irish passport enables you to 'get around' the 90/180 rule which British passport holders are subject to. I understand the Republic is significantly tightening eligibility on this.
Technically EU country passport holders should register their presence with the Policia Nacional after exceeding 90 days although many come and go without penalty for failing to do so....
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Be aware that spending more than 183 days in Spain in one year makes you a fiscal resident of Spain and liable to file a tax return in Spain by June following the year of Residency (The tax year in Spain is Jan-Dec).
Your NIE number is assigned permanently, the number never expires regardless of being resident or non resident.
Steve
Ps, I do hope you have a Tourist Letting Licence if you're doing holiday lets 😎
Thanks. Yes I have a licence, which is why I have to pay tax at 24%
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:33pm
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Hi ,
In response to above comment re the Irish Republic tightening eligibility for stay in Spain I don't think the comment is correct and I am an Irish citizen . Under EU law we are entitled to stay for 180 days in any one year . It is not a question " of getting around the system " as previously stated
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:43pm
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Eileen57 wrote on Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:33pm:
Hi ,
In response to above comment re the Irish Republic tightening eligibility for stay in Spain I don't think the comment is correct and I am an Irish citizen . Under EU law we are entitled to stay for 180 days in any one year . It is not a question " of getting around the system " as previousl...
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I think you may have misinterpreted my post. Perhaps read it again?
I suggested that getting an Irish passport was a way around the 90/180. Which it is. I didn't suggest the Republic was tightening up "eligibility for stay in Spain" as you put it.
I also suggested that the Republic was looking to tighten up eligibility criteria for Irish passports based on past family nationality history. Nothing to do with length of stay in Spain.
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:51pm
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dinnerout wrote on Sun Nov 24, 2024 12:43pm:
I think you may have misinterpreted my post. Perhaps read it again?
I suggested that getting an Irish passport was a way around the 90/180. Which it is. I didn't suggest the Republic was tightening up "eligibility for stay in Spain" as you put it.
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I also suggested that the Republic was looking to tighten up eligibility criteria for Irish passports based on past family nationality history. Nothing to do with length of stay in Spain.
Most Irish citizens were automatically Irish when they were born. Before 1 January 2005, everyone born on the island of Ireland was an Irish citizen by birth. Following an amendment to the Constitution of Ireland, citizenship by birth is no longer an automatic entitlement to everyone born on the island of Ireland.
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