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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:08pm
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Julieboddy

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Hi, I wonder whether they will change the cut off date for people wanting to relocate by Dec 2020 to receive healthcare and pension increases etc. Not looking good, hoping for an extension????

Kelvin1960

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:59pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 1:59pm

This is a question for Boris and co.

This is not driven by Spain or the EU. 

JillS

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41pm

Julieboddy wrote on Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:08pm:

Hi, I wonder whether they will change the cut off date for people wanting to relocate by Dec 2020 to receive healthcare and pension increases etc. Not looking good, hoping for an extension????

The .Committee on the Future Relationship with the European Union. told me that this was probably a question for Department of Work and Pensions - I've emailed my question now to their overseas healthcare team (ie can they still honour S1/healthcare and pensions after 31 Dec due to the pandemic for those who can't get over to gain residencia) [email protected] ......but not had a reply yet.

The British Embassy in Madrid, however, have told me last week that the Gov has been clear and will not change it's transition date!!!  But wished me well :)

I'm not holding out much hope of any changes to process /policy at this stage.

Julieboddy

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:55pm

JillS wrote on Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41pm:

The .Committee on the Future Relationship with the European Union. told me that this was probably a question for Department of Work and Pensions - I've emailed my question now to their overseas healthcare team (ie can they still honour S1/healthcare and pensions after 31 Dec due to the pandemic ...

...for those who can't get over to gain residencia) [email protected] ......but not had a reply yet.

The British Embassy in Madrid, however, have told me last week that the Gov has been clear and will not change it's transition date!!!  But wished me well :)

I'm not holding out much hope of any changes to process /policy at this stage.

Thankyou 

Castleman

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:55pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:55pm

The S1 healthcare and pensions are two different issues you will get your pension whatever happens as that's a personal payment to you from your contributions of NI ,The S1 no one knows at this stage ,all I know is that the UK Gov refuse to budge on extension of Brexit because if one day over after 31st December the EU want money put into the pot from UK 

Kimmy11

Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:51pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:51pm

Hi Julie,

A petition: "Extend the transition; delay negotiations until after the coronavirus outbreak" didn't receive the 100k votes required to force a debate in Parliament and the Government's response on 9 April 2020 was, "The transition period ends on 31 December 2020, as enshrined in UK law. The Prime Minister has made clear he has no intention of changing this. We remain fully committed to negotiations with the EU." (The full response is here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300412)

Hi Jill,

The Overseas Healthcare Services team transitioned earlier this year from the DWP to the NHS Business Services Authority.  Hopefully, your email will be redirected to the NHSBSA, but if you don't receive a response, you may want to try this email address instead: [email protected]

Kind regards,

Kim

JillS

Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 10:43am

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Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 10:43am

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:51pm:

Hi Julie,

A petition: "Extend the transition; delay negotiations until after the coronavirus outbreak" didn't receive the 100k votes required to force a debate in Parliament and the Government's response on 9 April 2020 was, "The transition period ends on 31 December 2020, as enshrined in UK law. The Pri...

...me Minister has made clear he has no intention of changing this. We remain fully committed to negotiations with the EU." (The full response is here: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300412)

Hi Jill,

The Overseas Healthcare Services team transitioned earlier this year from the DWP to the NHS Business Services Authority.  Hopefully, your email will be redirected to the NHSBSA, but if you don't receive a response, you may want to try this email address instead: [email protected]

Kind regards,

Kim

Thanks Kimmy, that's helpful, I'll forward it to them.  I did get a bouneback email to say it had changed but it looked like it redirected my mail, but I'm sure it was a different address again! 

RayD

Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 2:39pm

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Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 2:39pm

JillS wrote on Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:41pm:

The .Committee on the Future Relationship with the European Union. told me that this was probably a question for Department of Work and Pensions - I've emailed my question now to their overseas healthcare team (ie can they still honour S1/healthcare and pensions after 31 Dec due to the pandemic ...

...for those who can't get over to gain residencia) [email protected] ......but not had a reply yet.

The British Embassy in Madrid, however, have told me last week that the Gov has been clear and will not change it's transition date!!!  But wished me well :)

I'm not holding out much hope of any changes to process /policy at this stage.

Some months ago the British Ambassador in Spain went public with an announcement that the S1 was going to be honoured by the UK government after 1st Jan 2021.

Somewhat strange announcement as the UK government haven't published that information and still haven't given an answer.

However, there are those on this forum who claim to have been part of a committee including the Ambassador, and endorsed and confirmed his announcement.

It's just a pity that Johnson hasn't been told 😉

JillS

Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 4:13pm

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Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 4:13pm

RayD wrote on Fri May 1, 2020 2:39pm:

Some months ago the British Ambassador in Spain went public with an announcement that the S1 was going to be honoured by the UK government after 1st Jan 2021.

Somewhat strange announcement as the UK government haven't published that information and still haven't given an answer.

However, there are those on this forum who claim to have been part of a committee including the Ambassador, and endorsed and confirmed his announcement.

It's just a pity that Johnson hasn't been told 😉

Thanks Ray that's helpful, if anyone see that's more formally please let us know.  Cheers.

RayD

Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 4:42pm

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Posted: Fri May 1, 2020 4:42pm

JillS wrote on Fri May 1, 2020 4:13pm:

Thanks Ray that's helpful, if anyone see that's more formally please let us know.  Cheers.

The UK.gov website has had this statement on since 31 January 2020

UK-funded healthcare using an S1 from 1 January 2021

If you’re living in Spain before the end of 2020, your rights to access rights to access healthcare will stay the same from 1 January 2021 if you’re either:

  • receiving a UK State Pension
  • receiving another ‘exportable benefit’
  • a frontier worker (someone who works in one state and lives in another)

This means that you’ll get:

  • continued access to healthcare in Spain using your UK-issued S1 form
  • a UK-issued EHIC for travel
  • planned treatments in other EU countries via the S2 route
  • access to the NHS in England, Scotland and Wales when you’re visiting the UK
Unfortunately, it doesn't actually appear in any formal or legal brexit documents agreed between the UK, the EU, or Spain. It's not part of the Withdrawal Agreement signed by the UK and EU.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/healthcare-in-spain-including-the-balearic-and-canary-islands?utm_source=56db7b37-fb7b-4499-90ac-541724acf01d&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=govuk-notifications&utm_content=immediate

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