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Joint declaration by the foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, etc

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Joint declaration by the foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia

Monday 18 May 2020

The foreign affairs ministers of these countries met by videoconference to discuss a coordinated approach aimed at restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the European Union (EU).

Text of the Declaration

The foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia met by video conference today, 18 May 2020, to discuss a coordinated approach to restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the EU.

Freedom of movement and travel within Europe is a fundamental part of the European project. Our aim is to enable all citizens to move freely again, whether for professional, educational or simply personal reasons, in accordance with the principles of proportionality and non-discrimination.

Against the backdrop of the current coronavirus pandemic, Europe needs to guarantee much more: the freedom to move safely within EU territory.

We therefore welcome the guidelines published by the European Commission on 13 May 2020 in its Communications

"Tourism and transportation in 2020 and beyond."

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-commission-tourism-transport-2020-and-beyond_es.pdf

"For a gradual and coordinated approach to restoring freedom of movement and lifting internal border controls"

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication_freemovement_es.pdf

"COVID-19: Guidelines on the progressive restoration of transport services and connectivity"

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00017-00029.pdf

"COVID-19: Union guidelines for the gradual resumption of tourism services and for health protocols in hotel establishments",

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00001-00016.pdf

which are an important starting point for discussions between European partners, with a view to agreeing on criteria and deadlines for the next steps.

In this context, we agree on the following principles:

- We believe that a gradual, coordinated and consensual approach among EU Member States is the best way to achieve gradual standardisation of cross-border movement.

- It will be essential to consider how to allow movement while at the same time preventing the risk of increased infection from getting out of control.

- It will be crucial to ensure that our citizens can not only travel freely in Europe but can also return safely to their home country. We must therefore closely coordinate the conditions for lifting the rules on containment and quarantine, as well as the restoration of transport services. In this context, it will also be important to work on a common interpretation of the health rules and procedures.

- We believe that it is possible to gradually restore free movement across borders, provided that the current positive trends continue to lead to comparable epidemiological situations in the countries of origin and destination. The reopening of border crossings, particularly as regards the situation of cross-border workers, deserves special attention.

We urge tourism companies and related private actors to take advantage of the coming weeks to take appropriate preventive measures to protect travellers once freedom of movement and travel is restored. We believe that this is a key element in restoring citizens' confidence in the safety of travel.

We also invite our citizens to continue to take good note of the health information made available to them by the competent national and European authorities.

Although, at the moment, the situation caused by the coronavirus pandemic still differs from one country to another, our common objective is to coordinate as closely as possible the approaches of the European partners, in order to restore freedom of movement and security of movement in the near future.

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/serviciosdeprensa/notasprensa/exteriores/Paginas/2020/180520-covid-ue.aspx

*** Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator  ***


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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:23am

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 11:23am

RayD wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 11:06am:

Joint declaration by the foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia

Monday 18 May 2020

The foreign affairs ministers of these countries met by videoconference to discuss a coordinated approach aimed at restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the European Union (EU).

Text of the Declaration

The foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia met by video conference today, 18 May 2020, to discuss a coordinated approach to restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the EU.

Freedom of movement and travel within Europe is a fundamental part of the European project. Our aim is to enable all citizens to move freely again, whether for professional, educational or simply personal reasons, in accordance with the principles of proportionality and non-discrimination.

Against the backdrop of the current coronavirus pandemic, Europe needs to guarantee much more: the freedom to move safely within EU territory.

We therefore welcome the guidelines published by the European Commission on 13 May 2020 in its Communications

"Tourism and transportation in 2020 and beyond."

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-commission-tourism-transport-2020-and-beyond_es.pdf

"For a gradual and coordinated approach to restoring freedom of movement and lifting internal border controls"

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication_freemovement_es.pdf

"COVID-19: Guidelines on the progressive restoration of transport services and connectivity"

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00017-00029.pdf

"COVID-19: Union guidelines for the gradual resumption of tourism services and for health protocols in hotel establishments",

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00001-00016.pdf

which are an important starting point for discussions between European partners, with a view to agreeing on criteria and deadlines for the next steps.

In this context, we agree on the following principles:

- We believe that a gradual, coordinated and consensual approach among EU Member States is the best way to achieve gradual standardisation of cross-border movement.

- It will be essential to consider how to allow movement while at the same time preventing the risk of increased infection from getting out of control.

- It will be crucial to ensure that our citizens can not only travel freely in Europe but can also return safely to their home country. We must therefore closely coordinate the conditions for lifting the rules on containment and quarantine, as well as the restoration of transport services. In this context, it will also be important to work on a common interpretation of the health rules and procedures.

- We believe that it is possible to gradually restore free movement across borders, provided that the current positive trends continue to lead to comparable epidemiological situations in the countries of origin and destination. The reopening of border crossings, particularly as regards the situation of cross-border workers, deserves special attention.

We urge tourism companies and related private actors to take advantage of the coming weeks to take appropriate preventive measures to protect travellers once freedom of movement and travel is restored. We believe that this is a key element in restoring citizens' confidence in the safety of travel.

We also invite our citizens to continue to take good note of the health information made available to them by the competent national and European authorities.

Although, at the moment, the situation caused by the coronavirus pandemic still differs from one country to another, our common objective is to coordinate as closely as possible the approaches of the European partners, in order to restore freedom of movement and security of movement in the near future.

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/serviciosdeprensa/notasprensa/exteriores/Paginas/2020/180520-covid-ue.aspx

*** Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator  ***


Hi Jim,

Thanks for this,

I believe all this chat about death rates in individual country’s has little or no bearing on this issue.

Surely a medical of sorts with an approved visa/certificate will suffice.

Meaning each traveller has a clean bill of health, and cannot infect others.

Each individual is subject to the current rules of the area they are holidaying in.

Job done...

Terry 

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:50pm

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:50pm

Terryoneone wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 11:23am:

Hi Jim,

Thanks for this,

I believe all this chat about death rates in individual country’s has little or no bearing on this issue.

Surely a medical of sorts with an approved visa/certificate will suffice.

Meaning each traveller has a clean bill of health, and cannot infect others.

Each individual is subject to the current rules of the area they are holidaying in.

Job done...

Terry 

My concern is when and where would the clean bill of health be declared? Having got the all clear on a Monday (and still too many reports of false negatives to be 100% certain), a traveler, let's say from the UK, could then travel by public transport on the Tuesday with or without a mask or other PPE, spend a few hours in the airport and another couple of hours in the air (many reports of social distancing not being practiced and the financial aspect of airlines being 30% or so full) they should then be re-tested before entry into Spain. This would slow down the exit of incoming travelers meaning more time spent in public spaces.
I'm really hoping that the current reductions in infections practically EU wide continue and will mean that tourism becomes possible again soon, even if working within the new normal. I'm itching to meet my first grandson who is now 7 weeks old but much like tourist areas in the UK are pleading with tourists to stay away, those of us here are particularly at risk when the hordes descend again from all over Europe and beyond.
Someone living in the average town in the UK is not going to be subjected to this as nothing much will change for them but for us it's a whole different ballgame.

RayD

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:01pm

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:01pm

Cheryl wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 12:50pm:

My concern is when and where would the clean bill of health be declared? Having got the all clear on a Monday (and still too many reports of false negatives to be 100% certain), a traveler, let's say from the UK, could then travel by public transport on the Tuesday with or without a mask or other...

... PPE, spend a few hours in the airport and another couple of hours in the air (many reports of social distancing not being practiced and the financial aspect of airlines being 30% or so full) they should then be re-tested before entry into Spain. This would slow down the exit of incoming travelers meaning more time spent in public spaces.
I'm really hoping that the current reductions in infections practically EU wide continue and will mean that tourism becomes possible again soon, even if working within the new normal. I'm itching to meet my first grandson who is now 7 weeks old but much like tourist areas in the UK are pleading with tourists to stay away, those of us here are particularly at risk when the hordes descend again from all over Europe and beyond.
Someone living in the average town in the UK is not going to be subjected to this as nothing much will change for them but for us it's a whole different ballgame.

Any tourists visiting Spain or other EU countries would have to accept the same rules and restrictions as the citizens of those countries.

Which really means there's not a lot of point in coming to Spain whilst the estado de alarma is still on and there are mobility restrictions between provincias.

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:15pm

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:15pm

Cheryl wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 12:50pm:

My concern is when and where would the clean bill of health be declared? Having got the all clear on a Monday (and still too many reports of false negatives to be 100% certain), a traveler, let's say from the UK, could then travel by public transport on the Tuesday with or without a mask or other...

... PPE, spend a few hours in the airport and another couple of hours in the air (many reports of social distancing not being practiced and the financial aspect of airlines being 30% or so full) they should then be re-tested before entry into Spain. This would slow down the exit of incoming travelers meaning more time spent in public spaces.
I'm really hoping that the current reductions in infections practically EU wide continue and will mean that tourism becomes possible again soon, even if working within the new normal. I'm itching to meet my first grandson who is now 7 weeks old but much like tourist areas in the UK are pleading with tourists to stay away, those of us here are particularly at risk when the hordes descend again from all over Europe and beyond.
Someone living in the average town in the UK is not going to be subjected to this as nothing much will change for them but for us it's a whole different ballgame.

Hi Cheryl,

There’s been a lot of questions on this subject and understandably so, theres also been a lot of rubbish answers , maybe something lost in translation who knows.

The main aim has to be to get people safely from one country to another without risking COVID infections.

I hope you get to see your grand daughter soon....

Terry 

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:20pm

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:20pm

RayD wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 1:01pm:

Any tourists visiting Spain or other EU countries would have to accept the same rules and restrictions as the citizens of those countries.

Which really means there's not a lot of point in coming to Spain whilst the estado de alarma is still on and there are mobility restrictions between provincias.

Hi Jim,

All I wish to do is get to our villa, chill in the sun and relax.

I don’t particularly need to be out and about to much, except for shopping and the odd beer in the bar at the bottom of our urb... it purely selfish....

My heart goes out to anyone like Cheryl who has a much better motive ...

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RayD wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 11:06am:

Joint declaration by the foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia

Monday 18 May 2020

The foreign affairs ministers of these countries met by videoconference to discuss a coordinated approach aimed at restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the European Union (EU).

Text of the Declaration

The foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia met by video conference today, 18 May 2020, to discuss a coordinated approach to restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the EU.

Freedom of movement and travel within Europe is a fundamental part of the European project. Our aim is to enable all citizens to move freely again, whether for professional, educational or simply personal reasons, in accordance with the principles of proportionality and non-discrimination.

Against the backdrop of the current coronavirus pandemic, Europe needs to guarantee much more: the freedom to move safely within EU territory.

We therefore welcome the guidelines published by the European Commission on 13 May 2020 in its Communications

"Tourism and transportation in 2020 and beyond."

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-commission-tourism-transport-2020-and-beyond_es.pdf

"For a gradual and coordinated approach to restoring freedom of movement and lifting internal border controls"

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication_freemovement_es.pdf

"COVID-19: Guidelines on the progressive restoration of transport services and connectivity"

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00017-00029.pdf

"COVID-19: Union guidelines for the gradual resumption of tourism services and for health protocols in hotel establishments",

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00001-00016.pdf

which are an important starting point for discussions between European partners, with a view to agreeing on criteria and deadlines for the next steps.

In this context, we agree on the following principles:

- We believe that a gradual, coordinated and consensual approach among EU Member States is the best way to achieve gradual standardisation of cross-border movement.

- It will be essential to consider how to allow movement while at the same time preventing the risk of increased infection from getting out of control.

- It will be crucial to ensure that our citizens can not only travel freely in Europe but can also return safely to their home country. We must therefore closely coordinate the conditions for lifting the rules on containment and quarantine, as well as the restoration of transport services. In this context, it will also be important to work on a common interpretation of the health rules and procedures.

- We believe that it is possible to gradually restore free movement across borders, provided that the current positive trends continue to lead to comparable epidemiological situations in the countries of origin and destination. The reopening of border crossings, particularly as regards the situation of cross-border workers, deserves special attention.

We urge tourism companies and related private actors to take advantage of the coming weeks to take appropriate preventive measures to protect travellers once freedom of movement and travel is restored. We believe that this is a key element in restoring citizens' confidence in the safety of travel.

We also invite our citizens to continue to take good note of the health information made available to them by the competent national and European authorities.

Although, at the moment, the situation caused by the coronavirus pandemic still differs from one country to another, our common objective is to coordinate as closely as possible the approaches of the European partners, in order to restore freedom of movement and security of movement in the near future.

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/serviciosdeprensa/notasprensa/exteriores/Paginas/2020/180520-covid-ue.aspx

*** Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator  ***


Hi RayD

Thanks for posting this. I find it encouraging that countries are displaying a willingness to discuss potential strategies, cohesively, to further relax the restrictions, allowing controlled movement within the EU. 

As we move forward, I guess there will be sighs of relief; the economy does need to get moving. Hopefully, businesses will have taken the opportunity, in this prolonged “downtime”, to hone their individual strategies to enabling this in a manner ensuring the safety not only of employees, but users of their services/ business.

Similarly, the move forward will, I’m sure, cause anxiety for many people, particularly those with underlying conditions. It would be unfortunate indeed if these members of the public became somewhat isolated as a result of lack of confidence in the measures to help keep them safe

Beyond that, taking person responsibility is key. Ensuring that, as individuals, we comply with both guidance and law, regardless of country. Members have posted that some bars etc have been busy, with little regard to keeping themselves or others safe. Similar situation exist in the U.K. and may well be the same in other countries.

I’m confident science, guidance and law will progress us successfully to our, possibly changed, future. It does however, require a a major buy in with the key players - us

Let’s hope we can all rise to this challenge🤪🥂

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Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:22pm

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RayD wrote on Tue May 19, 2020 11:06am:

Joint declaration by the foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia

Monday 18 May 2020

The foreign affairs ministers of these countries met by videoconference to discuss a coordinated approach aimed at restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the European Union (EU).

Text of the Declaration

The foreign ministers of Austria, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Spain, Croatia, Germany, Greece, Italy, Malta, Portugal and Slovenia met by video conference today, 18 May 2020, to discuss a coordinated approach to restoring the European value of freedom of movement and travel within the EU.

Freedom of movement and travel within Europe is a fundamental part of the European project. Our aim is to enable all citizens to move freely again, whether for professional, educational or simply personal reasons, in accordance with the principles of proportionality and non-discrimination.

Against the backdrop of the current coronavirus pandemic, Europe needs to guarantee much more: the freedom to move safely within EU territory.

We therefore welcome the guidelines published by the European Commission on 13 May 2020 in its Communications

"Tourism and transportation in 2020 and beyond."

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication-commission-tourism-transport-2020-and-beyond_es.pdf

"For a gradual and coordinated approach to restoring freedom of movement and lifting internal border controls"

https://ec.europa.eu/info/sites/info/files/communication_freemovement_es.pdf

"COVID-19: Guidelines on the progressive restoration of transport services and connectivity"

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00017-00029.pdf

"COVID-19: Union guidelines for the gradual resumption of tourism services and for health protocols in hotel establishments",

https://www.boe.es/doue/2020/169/Z00001-00016.pdf

which are an important starting point for discussions between European partners, with a view to agreeing on criteria and deadlines for the next steps.

In this context, we agree on the following principles:

- We believe that a gradual, coordinated and consensual approach among EU Member States is the best way to achieve gradual standardisation of cross-border movement.

- It will be essential to consider how to allow movement while at the same time preventing the risk of increased infection from getting out of control.

- It will be crucial to ensure that our citizens can not only travel freely in Europe but can also return safely to their home country. We must therefore closely coordinate the conditions for lifting the rules on containment and quarantine, as well as the restoration of transport services. In this context, it will also be important to work on a common interpretation of the health rules and procedures.

- We believe that it is possible to gradually restore free movement across borders, provided that the current positive trends continue to lead to comparable epidemiological situations in the countries of origin and destination. The reopening of border crossings, particularly as regards the situation of cross-border workers, deserves special attention.

We urge tourism companies and related private actors to take advantage of the coming weeks to take appropriate preventive measures to protect travellers once freedom of movement and travel is restored. We believe that this is a key element in restoring citizens' confidence in the safety of travel.

We also invite our citizens to continue to take good note of the health information made available to them by the competent national and European authorities.

Although, at the moment, the situation caused by the coronavirus pandemic still differs from one country to another, our common objective is to coordinate as closely as possible the approaches of the European partners, in order to restore freedom of movement and security of movement in the near future.

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/serviciosdeprensa/notasprensa/exteriores/Paginas/2020/180520-covid-ue.aspx

*** Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator  ***


Cheers pete ! 

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Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 1:22pm

If the boarders opened tomorrow morning, I would expect tourism would be down by at least 50% until at least the end of the year, people are to afraid to travel on planes etc. The view by some governments that they open the boarders and tourists are going to come flooding through like nothing has happened is completely unrealistic. Second home owners will be queuing at the boarder but little else.

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