Climate Change - Page 2

more info from confused scientists...

Yes, it’s possible that Greenland’s ice sheet actually grew slightly in 2017.  It’s also possible that snowfall in 2017 and 2018 roughly balanced the mass of ice loss. But before climate-change skeptics bombard me (@StepCarter) with snide told-ya-so’s, bear in mind these are only possibilities.  Unfortunately, the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment satellite, our most sensitive measuring tool, stopped giving reliable data in 2016 and went dead during 2017. (Happily, a follow-on mission lifted into orbit in May of 2018).

does Villas live in the campo like me..still it would take several meters sea rise to affect me...and San Fulgencia would be well under water...Iceland would be Wetland....not the country but the store...i still cant find any real hard measurable evidence in my research...but lots of institutions with grants depending on it so i have to rule those out...typically they use min to max comparisons...but more real scientists are saying now there is no discernable level or temperature rise and they cant prove its affected by man or industry...other than cyclic norms due to weather and sun activity...its a bit like football...which i dont watch..but there is too much money in it..a white envelope to a key player eg a keeper can bring a different result...i saw some real schoolboy looking near saves last year on the news...

Owning a property on the Norfolk broads, which 10 years ago was rebuilt (due to flooding) - higher than it had been (supposedly ok for 100 years - though that figure now seems to be very much called into question). I do have major concerns that a property sitting a couple of metres from the water on 2 sides, is 'trouble waiting to happen'.  Of course, we can't get flood insurance now.

So far in the last 3 years, we've had to top up the land, as it's sinking into the water. Problem is taken no measurements against the key headings to see if the height has increased. Have now made a mark to review/check later.

Saw the Norfolk Broads local council white paper and makes quite alarmist reading - it's a flood plain - and if all is to be believed, my property and a lot of the Norfolk Broads has a limited life span.

Depending on where you look for your figures, I found an article or two, which by my calculations (admittedly based on other locations), stated that in 30 years time, the whole of the Norfolk broads could have water levels rise by as much as half a metre & that's mine and my sisters pension is gone.

I've now had someone mark up the water levels on the wooden key headings  - so will be interesting if see any movement, if checked at same time - year on year. There's a few reports knocking about and government white papers available to read, I personally felt quite shocked, when I read the potential longer-term predictions. 

Do I believe in climate change? More than I believe in Mr.Trump for sure. Whether it will be as bad as predicted or we can box our way out of it technologically - perhaps?  I do think though we need to address a political system, where votes and politicians jobs, seemingly count more, than saving the planet or each other.

I believe we are ruining the world.

But the evidence doesn't always equate, and the papers blame any adverse weather as climate change. If it snows more than 2mm in London , then we are bombarded with people not being able to get to work stories blamed on climate change.

none of them ever mention the ice age and what caused that . 

I have seen many painting's of ancient man hunting woolly mammoths who must have produced more methane than any herd of cows. But I have never seen a painting of a tyrannosaurus rex driving a diesel powered Range Rover!

And companies that produce Earth destroying chemicals don't seem to be being closed down.

If we concentrated on stopping wars and getting on with each other ,then we might be able to sort more world problems.

Rule one of finding a problem with a machine is start with the basics!

well said tvtech....lots of houses built on flood plains in recent years...if its like a 50 year event then no one notices...a friend of mine bought a lovely big detached house in York on a bend in the river and guess what..it was a flood plain...he got the 50 year event...sad to see his house under meters of water...more difficult to get a datum to measure sea rise as land may shift but presumably less of an effect...Villas might suggest a sky hook haha...

Funnily enough ( many years ago!) after my boat washed from the river Ouse & onto the quay in York. UK It looked like the sky-hook had fished it out & popped it on the hard-standing. Whilst waiting for the spring tide & torential rain, we had to leave the hostel-tavern to move to higher ground. In the pub ( before the level reached our necks, the publican pointed out the centuries "tide-marks" up until the ceiling!. Strange, back then, they never mentioned climate change. May be a "sky-hook". Guess what.......after Noah's lad, the water went down! Villas

My fear is 'the waters may well go down' but is usually after an event. 

In my case, a flooding event would ruin a fairly expensive wooden built property with no flood insurance.

My decision has been made already, I will sell within 10 years - as after that the risk is too great & given the value of the property and importance to mine and my sister's pension - sell it, while it's still worth some money. It's a shame as i'd love to keep it and use it myself long term - but the risk I believe is too great. The government wouldn't start publishing white papers about risks if there wasn't a reason to. Perhaps i'll buy a floating house instead ;-)

Why don't I believe in "Global Warming"™? Because even the thermometer in my kitchen confirms my belief summers used to be a lot hotter than they are now, the following picture I took about 11am in my kitchen, (South East England), and its supposed to be August.

If the Universities and Establishments who have to please their financial sponsors told me the sky was now green, I would look up and see for myself what colour it was and consider they were trying to pull the wool over my eyes.

After they were caught manipulating the figures and had to admit they were not seeing the increase in temperature they were expecting, they changed the label to "Climate Change", and maybe indeed it is, by getting colder, but this wont melt the Ice caps and drown us all. I also note on the now rare days we get what were normal summer days, they roll out the "Global Warming"™ frightener for a bit.

Climate change is a fact, but only in the sense of the climate is always changing, as has been shown in world history. Man made climate change because of Co2 emissions is a farce and a scam, and only serves to give the super wealthy an excuse to continue with their malevolent agendas. If Co2 is removed or reduced, then all life on this planet will suffer. Trees and plants breathe in Co2. Less Co2, then less plants, which will then will equate to less insect and animal life and less people, which is the end goal for these genocidal mentalists. Speaking of which, i saw an article earlier about Bill gates wanting to cover the globe in "Chem-trails" (something that has been going on for decades) in order to stop the suns rays reaching the earth. These people are elitists, have no empathy, and they see you and i as cattle fit for the slaughter. That's what this climate change scam is really about, reason for population reduction (down to 500 million to be precise).

Won't be long before we descend into conspiracy theories. 

From 1880-2018 the hottest 10 years have been in the last 10 years - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record

Humans are causing global warming is the position of the Academies of Science from 80 countries plus many scientific organizations that study climate science. More specifically, around 95% of active climate researchers actively publishing climate papers endorse the consensus position. https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm    

The fact we are pulling down trees faster than they are growing, clogging up the oceans with plastic - which now are drinking as it's in the food and water chain. It is true that scientists are often funded by various groups - though interestingly quotes by certain politicians go 'against the grain' and often their own departments.

Plastic contamination is rampant in bottled water. That was the unsettling conclusion of a study published last year in Frontiers in Chemistry that analyzed samples taken from 259 bottled waters sold in several countries and found that 93% of them contained “microplastic” synthetic polymer particles.

Many of those particles weren’t all that small. “Some were definitely visible without a magnifying glass or microscope,” says Sherri Mason, author of the study and a sustainability researcher at Penn State Erie, The Behrend College.https://time.com/5581326/plastic-particles-in-bottled-water/  (time)