90/180 rule

Hi

Someone put this calculator link on the site 

https://schengenareacalculator.com/

It's really helpful. 

The shenghan  calculator only allows you to put in one 180 day period at a time

Hello, 

 It's not  a 180 period its 2 x 90 day periods = a rolling 180  days. . When the 1st 90 days is up, you have to stay out of the EU zone for 90days before you can come back. Thats why the calculator only shows you 90days

Cheers

Elinspain

The 180 day period begins on the day of first entry in a shengan country you are then allowed  90 days up to the end of that 180 day period. However, if you have left the shengan country but return within the 180 days the count of 90 days continues. At the end of the 180 days even if the total days is less than 90 days stayed you must leave.

Hi Sandra,

I thought you'd understood it until your final sentence, "At the end of the 180 days even if the total days is less than 90 days stayed you must leave."  This isn't correct, as you haven't taken account of Elinspain's point that the 180 days is a continually rolling period.  When you want to enter the Schengen zone, you have to count backwards the last 180 days, and see if you have been present in Schengen for more than 90 days during that period; if you haven't, you can enter the zone again. 

You also need to remember that the daily count is from midnight, so if you arrive at 11.55pm, that counts as your first day of the 90 days, even though you were only in Schengen for 5 minutes of that first day.

It's going to take some getting used to; if it was me, I think I'd be limiting myself to, say, 88 days per 180 until I was sure I was calculating it correctly.

Kind regards,

Kim

It seems people are misunderstanding what a ROLLING period means. Non-EU nationals can spend up to a maximum of 90 days in any consecutive 180 days, those 90 days can be in one lump or several shorter stays, so long as the total number of days does not exceed 90 days in any 180 consecutive days. That is for the whole of Schengen area, not just Spain.

EU nationals visiting Spain can spend up to 182 days in any rolling 365 days as long as no one stay is longer than 90 days.

Thx DaveBev and just to be absolutely clear, your first paragraph refers to EU Schengen rules, whereas your second paragraph refers to Spanish residency and tax law.

Kind regards, 

Kim

First paragraph are rules for non-EU citizens visiting Schengen, so including Spain, so new rules for Brits from end of transition.  

Second paragraph is for EU citizens visiting Spain (which are the rules Brits are still covered by until transition ends).

Having read , all answers re days in and out EU after the 31st Dec.  I am further complexed than I was.😩

I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer, 🤣 but I’m getting no where, trying to get it into my head. 🤔

I’ll get a friend to sit with me, and go over it, until it Sinks In 🤣 

By the looks of it I’m not the only one! who is struggling.

However I do appreciate everyone’s effort, to try and explain . 🤔🤔🤔