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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:12pm
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carl david

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I understand the 90 days in 180 

But if I spend a month in Spain  and leave the country for a month , when  I return , because I’ve been out for a month do my 90 days in 180 star again ? 

d80gs2

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:15pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:15pm

No - it is a rolling 180 day period so it is not possible to "escape" it by leaving for a day (or a month) in the belief that the clock then resets.

carl david

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:23pm

carl david

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:23pm

d80gs2 wrote on Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:15pm:

No - it is a rolling 180 day period so it is not possible to "escape" it by leaving for a day (or a month) in the belief that the clock then resets.

Thank you , so we will have to be out of spain for 180 days once we have used up our 90 days ? 

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:30pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:30pm

To avoid some smart Alec comments about days in the month - if we assume that every month has 30 days and you were in Spain for Months 1, 2 and 3 then you would need to be out of Spain for Months 4, 5 and 6.

On Day 1 of Month 7, the days you were in Spain in Month 1 start to "drop off" so you could return again.

If you then spent Month 7 in Spain but were out of Spain in Months 8 and 9 then at the start of Month 10 your rolling 180 day total is only Month 7 so 30 days etc etc.

Obviously lots of permutations as everyone opts to come and go at different times but hopefully the above is useful in demonstrating the scenario.

I suspect I will end up with a simple spreadsheet as I travel within the EU due to work repeatedly but also have a holiday home in Spain - and from a 90 day perspective they all count. (I'm yet to ask my work about how the Swiss work visa I have helps or hinders but I suspect it will make not a blind bit of difference!)

jimtaylor

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:41pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:41pm

You could always use the calculator referred to in my guide:

Jim's Guide - Visiting the EU post-Brexit - Part 1 - The 90 day rule


d80gs2

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00pm

jimtaylor wrote on Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:41pm:

You could always use the calculator referred to in my guide:

Jim's Guide - Visiting the EU post-Brexit - Part 1 - The 90 day rule


My biggest issue is remembering all the travel I've actually done - but that's definitely a 1st world problem and one that shouldn't be moaned about!

carl david

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00pm

d80gs2 wrote on Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:30pm:

To avoid some smart Alec comments about days in the month - if we assume that every month has 30 days and you were in Spain for Months 1, 2 and 3 then you would need to be out of Spain for Months 4, 5 and 6.

On Day 1 of Month 7, the days you were in Spain in Month 1 start to "drop off" so you could return again....

...

If you then spent Month 7 in Spain but were out of Spain in Months 8 and 9 then at the start of Month 10 your rolling 180 day total is only Month 7 so 30 days etc etc.

Obviously lots of permutations as everyone opts to come and go at different times but hopefully the above is useful in demonstrating the scenario.

I suspect I will end up with a simple spreadsheet as I travel within the EU due to work repeatedly but also have a holiday home in Spain - and from a 90 day perspective they all count. (I'm yet to ask my work about how the Swiss work visa I have helps or hinders but I suspect it will make not a blind bit of difference!)

Thank you very much , that is very helpful😃👍

Davebev1

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:09pm

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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:09pm

Please remember the 90 days in any rolling 180 days is for the Schengen area, not just Spain.  So if you drive down to Spain via the Eurotunnel your day 1 in the Schengen zone is the day you arrive in France and you must leave the entire Schengen zone by day 90 at the latest.

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