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NO-DEAL Brexit planning assumptions - The Times reporting a "leaked" government document

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:42am
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:29am

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:29am

Morning, what's your view on the content?

Looking at the assumptions they seem to assume the worst or at very least bad outcomes, if nothing is done. I've not read the full article as it requires a subscription but it would be interesting to see the full log, in terms of RAID (Risks, Assumptions, Issues and Dependencies).

The assumptions will change as more becomes known resulting firstly in risks and then issues if mitigation strategies fail to deliver workable solutions. I'd like to see who owns the individual items and maybe increased transparency via a UK govt website given we are all stakeholders in this, far better than a leak to a newspaper.

Key will be what ultimately; accepted, avoided or fixed.

It's a depressing read though.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55am

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:55am

May, maybe ,could, if, likely, assume. 

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:19pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:19pm

Lancelot wrote on Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:29am:

Morning, what's your view on the content?

Looking at the assumptions they seem to assume the worst or at very least bad outcomes, if nothing is done. I've not read the full article as it requires a subscription but it would be interesting to see the full log, in terms of RAID (Risks, Assumptions, Issues and Dependencies)....

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The assumptions will change as more becomes known resulting firstly in risks and then issues if mitigation strategies fail to deliver workable solutions. I'd like to see who owns the individual items and maybe increased transparency via a UK govt website given we are all stakeholders in this, far better than a leak to a newspaper.

Key will be what ultimately; accepted, avoided or fixed.

It's a depressing read though.

I suspect that it is a deliberate leak.

Competent Civil Service risk managers in the UK and in the EU would have much more detail than this, and I don't see the current crop of UK Ministers having the depth or tenacity to wrestle with these issues. 

It looks like a list of talking points, for which there will be a prepared set of trite responses deemed sufficient for a 60 second TV soundbite, with the aim of convincing Brussels that Boris & Co really are prepared to invoke severe economic disruption  

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:37pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:37pm

Fake news or scaremongering in my opinion.

Would the author/owner of the document seriously be frequenting such a venue?

I read in the paper once there was a bus found on the moon... its on my bucket list of places to visit :o)

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:04pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 1:04pm

We all make plans which include assumptions.

My own plan to move includes assumptions on; spend, exchange rates, inflation, return on investment. The key to an achievable plan is making sure that the assumptions are not too optimistic :)

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:56pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:56pm

This post that was quoted has been deleted.

What I'd really want to see Ray is the overarching project plan, milestones and RAIDs. I know I'll never see the current one.

We woudn't be coming over until after Brexit so assume that we will be treated as any other non EU applicant, which might be as simple as demonstrating you have a greater amount of EUROs in your account given we are early inactivs. Clearly all the other items such as private medical cover would still be required. A gestor in my target area advised EU 15000 in a Spanish account for 3 months prior to residency (2 people) is what's currently being asked for. They felt it would be in the region of EU 25000 for non EU folks (2 people), so, for my plan, I'll assume a bit more than this.

Thanks for the link though.

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:24pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:24pm

UKHandyMan4Hire wrote on Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:37pm:

Fake news or scaremongering in my opinion.

Would the author/owner of the document seriously be frequenting such a venue?

I read in the paper once there was a bus found on the moon... its on my bucket list of places to visit :o)

Gove has responded to the document. It wasn't fake news.

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:05am

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:05am

When you look at all the other attempts of countries to free themselves from the tentacles of the EU, in the end, the Globalists allways get their own way.

Look at Ireland when they voted "no" to the Lisbon treaty, "Right, we will have another vote next year" was the response of the Globalists. The Bankers then proceeded to crash the Irish Tiger economy, and easy thing to do when a country is reliant on perpetualy borrowing debt to run itself, just watch Britains debt clock running at £5000 per second below and imagine what would  happen to the country if the bankers said they will not lend us any more?

So the following year, Ireland had another vote, this time they voted "Yes", the people had no choice but to submit to the desires of the bankers.

Why would they let Britain escape when they have such control over us/

My view is that Brexit will either not happen, people are allready so frightened that they would vote to stay in if another referendum was called. More likely though, we will come out, the bankers will withold the lending of more debt, a "Credit Crunch" they call it, Britain will be subjected to such suffering as a warning to other countries of the follies of leaving, then another referendum  will see us back in the EU.

So articles like this are a deliberate part of the frightening plan, I suspect Boris himself is also part of that plan to make things as bad as possible for Britian via a no deal Brexit.

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