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That is really sad,why no autopsy?
Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:51pm
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:13am
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MillySpain wrote on Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:40pm:
I have lost no one to Covid but know two women who died after their vaccines. Age 51 and 72. Both women were in Ireland and there was no autopsy.
The entire situation is a scary and sad mess...
What was the cause of death on the Death Certificate?
MillySpain wrote on Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:40pm:
I have lost no one to Covid but know two women who died after their vaccines. Age 51 and 72. Both women were in Ireland and there was no autopsy.
The entire situation is a scary and sad mess...
In Ireland, there is a legal requirement for an autopsy if cause of death is not known.
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:45am
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MillySpain wrote on Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:40pm:
I have lost no one to Covid but know two women who died after their vaccines. Age 51 and 72. Both women were in Ireland and there was no autopsy.
The entire situation is a scary and sad mess...
I have lost a friend and some aquaitances to Covid but don't know anyone who has been badly ill after their vaccine.
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 5:58pm
Kimmy11 wrote on Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:04pm:
Hi MillySpain,
Spain currently has no plans to make vaccination mandatory. However, on the radio this morning, there was a report that 70% of the people currently in Spanish intensive care units are antivacunas (anti-vaxxers) and negacionistas (Covid deniers) who have refused the vaccine. Because of...
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... the additional burden on the healthcare system and the risk to clinicians and other workers associated with their care, the Spanish government is considering charging people, who refuse the vaccine and contract the virus, for their care. The charge suggested would be a minimum of ā¬8,000, but could be as high as ā¬50,000 per patient.
Kind regards,
Kim
That's laughable considering all the people who are injured and very ill from the effects of the vaccines, the thousands of vaccine related deaths, not too mention all those that have died from vaccine related blood clots and strokes, and the huge rise in new turbo speed cancers and miscarriages. Now we are to believe that children having strokes and heart attacks, etc., is perfectly normal.
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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:02pm
Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:08am:
Hi MillySpain,
Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't seen anyone on this forum say that the "unvaxed deserve to die in a ditch" š³
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You do have a choice - you can have the vaccine, or stand by your principles and deal with whatever consequences that may include. Even if Spain does decide to charge the unvaccinated for their treatment should they catch the virus, I think that gives you a better choice than the front line medical staff who don't have the right to refuse you treatment and risk catching it themselves.
Kind regards,
Kim
Well now Covid has been downgraded to flu. If you recall, when Covid was in full bloom, we seemed to have no flu cases!
I expected when Pharma companies want to ramp up the Covid fear and scaremongering again to make more billions, we will be back to killer Covid scenarios.
I noticed that after two brief weeks of my local hospital demanding the public mask up, they themselves gave up the effort entirely and returned to normality.
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:10pm
Kimmy11 wrote on Tue Jul 27, 2021 12:13am:
What was the cause of death on the Death Certificate?
I would imagine the cause of death was Covid. During the Scamdemic, if one fell off a roof, and was then trampled by a herd of elephants and further run over by a truck, a doctor might well put Covid as the cause of Death. In the UK doctors were paid 50 pounds per Covid declared death, so who could blame them for taking the easy money. Even the Courts refused to reverse a wrong cause of death when outraged relatives appealed. The Courts too stuck to the official party line. Things are not what they used to be in Blighty, and Lord knows where it's all heading.
MarinaDenia wrote on Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:10pm:
I would imagine the cause of death was Covid. During the Scamdemic, if one fell off a roof, and was then trampled by a herd of elephants and further run over by a truck, a doctor might well put Covid as the cause of Death. In the UK doctors were paid 50 pounds per Covid declared deat...
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...h, so who could blame them for taking the easy money. Even the Courts refused to reverse a wrong cause of death when outraged relatives appealed. The Courts too stuck to the official party line. Things are not what they used to be in Blighty, and Lord knows where it's all heading.
Misinformed rubbish. If someone had Covid and died it would go down as suffering from Covid. Once the death certificate came through, about 10 days later, if the death was not listed as "due to" Covid they were removed from the figures.
This is all social media scaremongering which is designed to frighten people
Plus flu never went away. It was still being reported on the weekly flu reports but was at a very low level as the precautions against covid were effective against flu as well. Plus they are two totally different viruses. You can now get a detector that shows if it is flu, coronavirus or just a cold.
Social media has a lot to answer for as do the misinformation pages pumped out by just a dozen sites throughout the world. People would rather believe them than official laboratories that have to take a long time to carry out studies, have them checked, published and reviewed before they can say anything or give any results. Social media simply say something with no proof and whammooo. Everybody believes it and repeats it.
Like this mythical bus that follows those diagnosed with covid in the last 28 days and purposely targets them to run them over. Never happened and neither did anyone falling off a roof.
Just like over the last week I've seen 4 young(ish) people die and not explained at first. Every social media, press comment all full of blaiming the vaccine. That one was a shotgun accident, two were overdoses and alcohol related and the other an underlying problem going on for many years and all of a sudden they shut up. People refusing to believe anyone died at all before the virus or the vaccine.
Initial figures are "with" covid, final figures are "due to" covid as in someone having heart problems and living a perfectly normal life on lo dose aspirin. Then gets the covid which overcomes the good the aspirin is doing and dies. Is that "with" "from" or "due to" covid?
Considering the rumours and rubbish going around they'll all say with and not even look into it any further.
And it's all over so why bring it up?
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 7:31pm
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MarinaDenia wrote on Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:10pm:
I would imagine the cause of death was Covid. During the Scamdemic, if one fell off a roof, and was then trampled by a herd of elephants and further run over by a truck, a doctor might well put Covid as the cause of Death. In the UK doctors were paid 50 pounds per Covid declared deat...
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...h, so who could blame them for taking the easy money. Even the Courts refused to reverse a wrong cause of death when outraged relatives appealed. The Courts too stuck to the official party line. Things are not what they used to be in Blighty, and Lord knows where it's all heading.
Considering the risk that NHS staff had to endure, with insufficient and inadequate PPE before a vaccine was developed, I find your assertion that UK doctors get paid for writing death certificates particularly disgusting:
As the for the rest of your unsubstantiated claptrap, go "discuss" it with the other crazies on social media. For someone who thinks Covid-19 is a "scandemic", one has to wonder why you would bother posting on a thread that's almost 3 years old!
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2024 8:01pm
marcliff wrote on Sun Mar 10, 2024 6:34pm:
Misinformed rubbish. If someone had Covid and died it would go down as suffering from Covid. Once the death certificate came through, about 10 days later, if the death was not listed as "due to" Covid they were removed from the figures.
This is all social media scaremongering which is designed to frighten people...
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Plus flu never went away. It was still being reported on the weekly flu reports but was at a very low level as the precautions against covid were effective against flu as well. Plus they are two totally different viruses. You can now get a detector that shows if it is flu, coronavirus or just a cold.
Social media has a lot to answer for as do the misinformation pages pumped out by just a dozen sites throughout the world. People would rather believe them than official laboratories that have to take a long time to carry out studies, have them checked, published and reviewed before they can say anything or give any results. Social media simply say something with no proof and whammooo. Everybody believes it and repeats it.
Like this mythical bus that follows those diagnosed with covid in the last 28 days and purposely targets them to run them over. Never happened and neither did anyone falling off a roof.
Just like over the last week I've seen 4 young(ish) people die and not explained at first. Every social media, press comment all full of blaiming the vaccine. That one was a shotgun accident, two were overdoses and alcohol related and the other an underlying problem going on for many years and all of a sudden they shut up. People refusing to believe anyone died at all before the virus or the vaccine.
Initial figures are "with" covid, final figures are "due to" covid as in someone having heart problems and living a perfectly normal life on lo dose aspirin. Then gets the covid which overcomes the good the aspirin is doing and dies. Is that "with" "from" or "due to" covid?
Considering the rumours and rubbish going around they'll all say with and not even look into it any further.
And it's all over so why bring it up?
I know people this happened to. It was also reported in the mainstream press.
Why bring it up when it's all over? Why bring up any outrage. Why not just bury it?
Those who do not remember history are doomed to relive it.
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