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Registering on the Padron: do you have to present a baja?

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:15pm
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I'm moving to Spain permanently and I read on one website/blog that in order to register on the Padron you need to present a "baja" - a letter from the UK Consul or Embassy stating that you are no longer a UK resident. Can anyone advise if this is correct?  Many thanks in advance for any advice. 

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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:15pm

Hi,

I'm not sure if the requirements are the same at every town hall, you would assume so, but this is Spain so be prepared for the rules to be variable in how they are applied!

Our experience at the town hall in Adsubia was good and they were super helpful.

You will need the following; official identification (Passport), your NIE number, a copy of a recent utility bill in your name and a copy of the deeds or rental contract for your property.

If you intend to buy a car don't forget to ask for a padron certificate as you will need this. Bear in mind that its only valid for a few months but they should be able to print off another copy whenever you need one.

A good source of information about the Padron is here: http://spanishnewstoday.com/how-to-sign-on-to-the-municipal-padron-in-spain-padrón_18989-a.html

And general factsheets here: http://spanishnewstoday.com/spanish-news-today-spanish-living-factsheets_19453-a.html#.Uv-ZgLQ9-Sp

Hope this helps,

Colin

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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:17pm

Thanks Colin, much appreciated. Very helpful. Steve

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:13am

dinnerout wrote on Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:15pm:

I'm moving to Spain permanently and I read on one website/blog that in order to register on the Padron you need to present a "baja" - a letter from the UK Consul or Embassy stating that you are no longer a UK resident. Can anyone advise if this is correct?  Many thanks in advance for any adv...

...ice. 

We are currently living 180/180 in Denia and have purchased an apartment and car. We pay non resident taxes and are looking to get residencia next year.

We tried registering on the Denia padron and were told we needed residencia first. This I understand is not the same in Javea.

dinnerout

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:18am

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:18am

Thanks Mikbak. That was an old topic i posted up. In the end all I needed was my passport,  NIE cert and Escritura. (Didn't need a residencia card or a utility bill)  

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:55pm

dinnerout wrote on Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:15pm:

I'm moving to Spain permanently and I read on one website/blog that in order to register on the Padron you need to present a "baja" - a letter from the UK Consul or Embassy stating that you are no longer a UK resident. Can anyone advise if this is correct?  Many thanks in advance for any adv...

...ice. 

Firstly a disclaimer. I am not a lawyer, solicitor, asesor, abogado nor any other professional. But I have lived here half my life so have some acquired knowledge and experience.

"Residence" can mean a lot of things to different people and to different authorities. Residence and domicile are often confused. For English people, this difference affects English inheritance tax and not much else. Residence can mean nothing more than having an English address. Many web adverts insist you are English resident - what do they really mean? Sky demands English residence....? Do YOU have a Sky card???? Tut! Tut!! Often life insurance is refused as Spanish residence is seen as more risky than English residence - I disagree I am less likely to be stabbed  here on the Costa! A few years ago someone won an English lottery jackpot but was disqualified because he bought his ticket online from Benidorm whilst on holiday - he was deemed non resident in England for that particular purpose. Now tax residence - Spanish tax residence is easy - just spend 183 days or more in Spain and you are supposed to declare in Spain in May or June each year. English tax residence - like all things English, it's complicated. My last reading is that, like Spain 183 days or more in England and you are tax resident. Less than that, it's averaged over the last four years. More than 90 days in England each year and they have got you by the b....s. Some believe you can't be resident on both countries. Wrong - each country has its own rules. You could be a tax payer in Thailand, Outer Mongolia, England AND Spain!! Why not! For Thailand, you'll need an interpreter however. 

I have no illusions - the first aim of all official bodies is to relieve you of your cash. The more complicated it is the better and the more they can take The next layer is the "advisers" who will gladly frighten you about tax matters and liberate you of more of your precious cash! I dare not mention names but certain well know operators fall into this category. Few professionals really care how they treat you - when you find one that does, stick to him like glue and recommned him to others. To continue to treat clients with real respect he needs new business. He too has to live. Help him to find it!

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