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New entry rules for children

Posted: Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:43pm
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JeanetteD321

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My family and I were all due to fly out on the 16th December to spend Christmas in Spain. Myself, husband and 17 year old son have all had two vaccines, but my daughter who is 13 has not had a vaccine. Am I right to say under the new restrictions brought in that because she is over 12 she is not allowed into Spain?  The majority of children in the age group 13-16 have either had one vaccine or no vaccine, a second vaccine has not yet been offered to children. We had already purchased her PCR test, but it seems having a negative test is not enough! Surely a negative PCR for a 13 year old is less of a risk than allowing the rest of us in with just the knowledge that we have all had two vaccines. The rules just don’t make any sense to me!

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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:30am

JeanetteD321 wrote on Wed Dec 1, 2021 10:43pm:

My family and I were all due to fly out on the 16th December to spend Christmas in Spain. Myself, husband and 17 year old son have all had two vaccines, but my daughter who is 13 has not had a vaccine. Am I right to say under the new restrictions brought in that because she is over 12 she is not ...

...allowed into Spain?  The majority of children in the age group 13-16 have either had one vaccine or no vaccine, a second vaccine has not yet been offered to children. We had already purchased her PCR test, but it seems having a negative test is not enough! Surely a negative PCR for a 13 year old is less of a risk than allowing the rest of us in with just the knowledge that we have all had two vaccines. The rules just don’t make any sense to me!

Found this 😟

Children aged 12 to 15 are to be banned from entering Spain from Wednesday 1 December unless they are fully vaccinated.

New travel restrictions, announced by the Spanish government on Monday in response to the new Omicron variant, mean that unvaccinated UK teens will no longer be able to enter the country from next week.

  • All travellers aged 12 and over must be fully vaccinated to enter Spain from 1 December onwards.
GrahamLynn

Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 8:57am

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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 8:57am

Carolcoldy wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 12:30am:

Found this 😟

Children aged 12 to 15 are to be banned from entering Spain from Wednesday 1 December unless they are fully vaccinated.

New travel restrictions, announced by the Spanish government on Monday in response to the new Omicron variant, mean that unvaccinated UK teens will no longer be able to enter the country from next week.

All travellers aged 12 and over must be fully vaccinated to enter Spain from 1 December onwards.

I think the problem of quoting that children aged 12-15  must be fully vaccinated is misleading.

As that’s where the U.K. and Spain differ.

A fully vaccinated child 12-15 in the EU has had two jabs. The U.K. decided very late in the day that that age group were going to be jabbed but would only require one dose. So the U.K. class one jab as  fully jabbed for that age group.

The entry requirements for Spain state that anyone aged 12 or over must have received two doses of a double jab vaccine or one jab of a single dose vaccine. It then goes on to list the vaccines accepted and whether they are single or two doses. There are a few exceptions to the rules, but for 99% of people flying from the U.K. to Spain for a short December break they have to be double jabbed.

If you look around at the restrictions other countries have imposed in the past few days, then the Spanish government are still being very lenient. Many countries have quarantine regulations back in force.

Latest travel entry rules in simple terms can be found on the following website.

https://travelsafe.spain.info/en/


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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 11:16am

GrahamLynn wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 8:57am:

I think the problem of quoting that children aged 12-15  must be fully vaccinated is misleading.

As that’s where the U.K. and Spain differ.

A fully vaccinated child 12-15 in the EU has had two jabs. The U.K. decided very late in the day that that age group were going to be jabbed but would only require one dose. So the U.K. class one jab as  fully jabbed for that age group.

The entry requirements for Spain state that anyone aged 12 or over must have received two doses of a double jab vaccine or one jab of a single dose vaccine. It then goes on to list the vaccines accepted and whether they are single or two doses. There are a few exceptions to the rules, but for 99% of people flying from the U.K. to Spain for a short December break they have to be double jabbed.

If you look around at the restrictions other countries have imposed in the past few days, then the Spanish government are still being very lenient. Many countries have quarantine regulations back in force.

Latest travel entry rules in simple terms can be found on the following website.

https://travelsafe.spain.info/en/


Lynn

Very interesting.

My kids, (14 and 12), have had a single vac, Pfizor). Where can I find out if this is ok to travel to Spain? 

GrahamLynn

Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 11:21am

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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 11:21am

ggoogy1 wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 11:16am:

Very interesting.

My kids, (14 and 12), have had a single vac, Pfizor). Where can I find out if this is ok to travel to Spain? 

Unfortunately they can’t enter Spain  with a single vaccination. Further information below

Travelling with children – From 1 December, The Spanish government requires all visitors coming to Spain from the UK to present, on entry, proof of being fully vaccinated (with both doses of a two-dose vaccine or one dose of a one-dose vaccine) at least 14 days prior to arrival in Spain. Children under 12 are excluded from this rule, so may enter Spain without being vaccinated. However, children aged 12 and over must have been fully vaccinated, as per the Spanish definition above, to enter Spain.

UK Nationals resident in Spain – If you are resident here, the vaccination requirement is one of the options. You will also be able to enter Spain with a negative COVID test or a recovery certificate. Do make sure you are carrying proof of your residency.

Please see this page for more detail: http://www.exteriores.gob.es/…/Travel%20between…. For further information please see https://www.gov.uk/foreign…/spain/entry-requirements and sign up for alerts, so that you are kept updated when anything changes. You can also find more detail at: https://www.mscbs.gob.es/…/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm.


Lynn


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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 9:46pm

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Posted: Thu Dec 2, 2021 9:46pm

ggoogy1 wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 11:16am:

Very interesting.

My kids, (14 and 12), have had a single vac, Pfizor). Where can I find out if this is ok to travel to Spain? 

Hi ggoggy1,

Pfizer BioNTech is a two-dose vaccine, so if your children have only had one dose of Pfizer, I'm afraid that Spain does not regard them as fully vaccinated.

Kind regards,

Kim

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Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:00pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 1:00pm

Its absolutely crazy. I really feel for people with children in the 12-15 age group. Its about time there was one worldwide policy on vaccination for all different age groups. Its all political and now families can't get together over Christmas if their children are in that age bracket. None of it makes any sense at all. A child under 12 can travel and 12-15 can't. One day makes a difference supposedly, utter rubbish. They will have booked and paid for flights and onward travel. Nevermind all these additional tests, another money making exercise.

I am double jabbed but I don't trust any of the political leaders( so called) one little bit. Just my view, believe what you will.

Kimmy11

Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:10pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:10pm

Hi Alfapash,

I don't have a problem having rules per se, but I share your frustration at the apparent inconsistency in some of them.  For example, Spain's new regulation that demands individuals present a Covid vaccination certificate to enter a bar or restaurant that caters for 50 people or more.  That suggests we're less likely to contract Covid in a bar or restaurant that caters for less than 50, when actually 40 people packed into a small bar could expose those people to a higher viral load than the same 40 people in a large venue that caters for 50+ 🤷‍♀️

Kind regards, 

Kim

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Posted: Mon Dec 6, 2021 6:14pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 9:46pm:

Hi ggoggy1,

Pfizer BioNTech is a two-dose vaccine, so if your children have only had one dose of Pfizer, I'm afraid that Spain does not regard them as fully vaccinated.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thanks. Very disappointing. Rules seem to be changing quite regularly. Have to just wait and see, I suppose.

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:00pm

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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 8:00pm

GrahamLynn wrote on Thu Dec 2, 2021 8:57am:

I think the problem of quoting that children aged 12-15  must be fully vaccinated is misleading.

As that’s where the U.K. and Spain differ.

A fully vaccinated child 12-15 in the EU has had two jabs. The U.K. decided very late in the day that that age group were going to be jabbed but would only require one dose. So the U.K. class one jab as  fully jabbed for that age group.

The entry requirements for Spain state that anyone aged 12 or over must have received two doses of a double jab vaccine or one jab of a single dose vaccine. It then goes on to list the vaccines accepted and whether they are single or two doses. There are a few exceptions to the rules, but for 99% of people flying from the U.K. to Spain for a short December break they have to be double jabbed.

If you look around at the restrictions other countries have imposed in the past few days, then the Spanish government are still being very lenient. Many countries have quarantine regulations back in force.

Latest travel entry rules in simple terms can be found on the following website.

https://travelsafe.spain.info/en/


Lynn

I've clicked on the Link Graham but can't find any info listing which single jab doses are acceptable - can you forward me the link or list of single acceptable doses into Spain ?    Thank You

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