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Community issues

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:33pm
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Mo55

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We are having issues in our community. 

The building has 6 apartments. 

3 apartments are used as holiday homes.

3 apartments are long term rentals 

We are the only people that pays to maintain the lift and nobody else pays .

 They outlined that they don't want to use the lift so they are not paying for a service they do not use .

The lift has been switched of and have been for over 2 years.

The president In our community ,owns a holiday home in the block and is very seldom there albeit, outlined that he is prepared to pay if I get the other to pay, nevertheless the other will not pay .

The administrator outlined that if I wish for the lift to be switched on , I would need to pay for the maintenance and up keep myself and on top of that a switch on fee which is more than £1200 euros. 

We stay at the top floor & are unable to gets family and friends to stay with us ,as they are either too unfit to climb up the stairs or disabled and need the lift to access our property. 

Any help on resolving this matter would be greatly appreciated. 

It would be nice to have our family and friends visit us. 

My husband is waiting on a hip replacement and he's struggling to get up & down the stairs. 

Thanks inadvance 

GrahamLynn

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:15pm

GrahamLynn

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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:15pm

This must have been agreed at  sometime at the community AGM. 

Guessing the cost of running a lift, maintenance electricity, cleaning etc was far too expensive for such a small community. 

To get the lift up and running again it would have to be on the agenda of your next AGM. If you are pressing for it, I would do your homework and find out the running costs per annum , as this will help/hinder when the motion is voted upon. Perhaps  subtly suggest that the owners who rent out their properties could offset the increased community charge  with a rent increase. 

DUI

Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:14pm

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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 6:14pm

Good example of why you should always attend the AGM.They often seem like they are sucking the life blood from you but if you don’t bother it’s difficult to complain afterwards.Check that the other apartments are complying with all the rules,could give you some leverage.

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Mo55

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:01am

Mo55

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:01am

GrahamLynn wrote on Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:15pm:

This must have been agreed at  sometime at the community AGM. 

Guessing the cost of running a lift, maintenance electricity, cleaning etc was far too expensive for such a small community. 

To get the lift up and running again it would have to be on the agenda of your next AGM. If you are pressing for it, I would do your homework and find out the running costs per annum , as this will help/hinder when the motion is voted upon. Perhaps  subtly suggest that the owners who rent out their properties could offset the increased community charge  with a rent increase. 

Hi Graham/Lynn, thank you for your response   it's much appreciated. 

AGM

I attended the last community ATM and I outlined the lift issues. 

In a nutshell 

The lift were switched off before we purchased our apartment & it was decided at a previous AGM by the other owners who attended that AGM they wished the lift to be switched off to save money as they didn't use the lift. Excuse was the cost of living crisis. 

6 apartments 

2 at the top floor 

1 - was up for sale - i purchased it  ,after the AGM ,and I was unaware of the agreement.  The lift was switched off , just after I purchased the apartment when i started to use it as a holiday home . The lift was switched off  , i thought it was faulty and would be fixed. Investigation revealed different. 

2 - is long term rental and the occupants would rather the lift was operating nevertheless the owner would put the cost of lift maintenance on top of the rent , so in a nutshell they are wanting the lift to work,  notwithstanding they are not prepared to pay the increased rent .

The middle 2 apartments 

1 - long term rent , occupants are not prepared to pay for the maintenance of the lift as the cost will be put on top of their rent.

2- holiday home apartments [president]. He doesn't need to use the lift , and will only  pay costs towards the lift , if everyone else agrees. 

The administrator outlined the problem with getting the others to pay was :

The bottom 2 apartments are used as a holiday homes and long term rental and as they are on the level they will not pay as they do not use the lift , no need to.

GrahamLynn

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:50pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:50pm

So if you have already brought the matter up at an AGM and the other owners have decided against it, there’s nothing more you can do. Long term renters don’t have any say in an AGM, xo presumably the owner doesn’t want to upset the applecart with their tenants. 

 If there were only 4 apartments sharing the cost of the life in community fees then presumably your community charge has decreased  accordingly since the lift was turned off.  I don’t understand you saying you are  the only  owners still paying for a lift  - that is no longer operational.

Can’t see it being feasible for you to pay for the lift on your own - even if  a) you are willing and b) it gets passed  at an AGM. Also if  the lift is in use that the other three apartments will use it at your expense!  You could also then get changed a hefty fee for moving the electricity supply  for the lift to your meter. 

Lynn

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Posted: Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:23pm

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Posted: Mon Jun 5, 2023 7:23pm

I am looking for a bike to get around on in Formentera,  mans preferably   i am new here in spain so would be great to get out and about, thanks 

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