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Many people have lost their businesses as a direct result of the arbitary changes in regulations. It is clear you don't rund a pub!
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:40am
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:44am
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Joris will love you - ever read 1984?
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:45am
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Movingon wrote on Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:38am:
Here's is but one summary of why I'm sad and ashamed of what UK has allowed itself to become,
With such scant and passing respect for the truth there can be little doubt that it's going to get worse.
Truth is one of the first victims of conflict
Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:02pm:
How funny, I actually said to hubby last night that I thought the motivation for suspending the Spanish 'air bridge' was because they need the tourist money spent in the UK. The only thing this article doesn't include is my further view that, in pitching it the way they have, the UK governm...
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...ent has effectively set up Spain to take the blame for any subsequent infection rate spike that may occur in the UK - so typical of BoJo: "It's anybody's fault, except mine".
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:50am
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Kimmy11 wrote on Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:28pm:
My friend's son and wife, who arrived from the UK on Friday for 2 weeks have been trying all day to get a flight home again.
BoJo and the other incompetent clowns can delay mandating the wearing of masks in shops for 2 weeks, but couldn't delay suspension of the air bridge for the same period, in order to allow holiday makers in Spain to get home? Perhaps if they'd managed to roll out the Covid-19 health che...
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...cks, piloted at Heathrow earlier this month, to other UK airports before September at the earliest, they wouldn't have to apply yet further, poorly thought through, panic measures 🤨
Kimmy,
or to look at it another way could it be that Spain is pitching for tourists money and playing down the number of coronavirus cases they have? After all Spain is far more dependant upon tourism that the UK. Spain is only one country that people go to on vacation from the UK and the restrictions hits UK businesses as well as Spanish, in particular airlines and airports.
Whilst I was in Spain last week the Valencia region imposed stricter rules on mask wearing so there must be a surge in cases across the Costa Blanca as well as further north.
Attached from the BBC yesterday about infection rates around Europe.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53544586
Rgds,
Aitch
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05am
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Hi aitch,
Yes, there are multiple new outbreaks in Spain, one of the worst being Catalonia, where the regional government has put them back to Fase 1 of lockdown restrictions. However, that doesn't explain, as I said in my earlier post, why BoJo delayed mandating the wearing of masks in UK shops for 2 weeks, but couldn't delay suspension of the air bridge for the same period, in order to allow holiday makers in Spain to get home? As I said, yet more poorly thought-through, panic measures.
Kind regards,
Kim
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:36am
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Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05am:
Hi aitch,
Yes, there are multiple new outbreaks in Spain, one of the worst being Catalonia, where the regional government has put them back to Fase 1 of lockdown restrictions. However, that doesn't explain, as I said in my earlier post, why BoJo delayed mandating the wearing of masks in UK ...
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...shops for 2 weeks, but couldn't delay suspension of the air bridge for the same period, in order to allow holiday makers in Spain to get home? As I said, yet more poorly thought-through, panic measures.
Kind regards,
Kim
I suspect that when the proper investigation into this mess is undertaken, those two questions are going to be high on the list as a way to hi-light the lack of continuity shown by the government in managing and reacting to the pandemic.
1. Wearing masks in shops: A rule that in real terms will cause almost no-one any real issues. Is easy to instigate and it'll to the re-=opening of the economy... Two-weeks prior warning.
2. Changing FCO advice on travel to Spain and bringing in quarantine rules for returning nationals: A rule that will throw an entire industry into chaos, cause enormous financial hardship to thousands of people, massive staffing issues for hundreds of employers, and last but by no means least create stress for many with untold mental health ramifications: 20 min prior warning.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:47am
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Kimmy11 wrote on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:05am:
Hi aitch,
Yes, there are multiple new outbreaks in Spain, one of the worst being Catalonia, where the regional government has put them back to Fase 1 of lockdown restrictions. However, that doesn't explain, as I said in my earlier post, why BoJo delayed mandating the wearing of masks in UK ...
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...shops for 2 weeks, but couldn't delay suspension of the air bridge for the same period, in order to allow holiday makers in Spain to get home? As I said, yet more poorly thought-through, panic measures.
Kind regards,
Kim
Hi Kim,
you are right about the masks and for me the government rightly had a lot of criticism for acting slowly, now they act decisively, following the statistics and they get criticism. Added to which there are suggestions it is financially motivated which to me seems illogical. Anyhow, we spent 10 days in Spain, returning last Thursday, and never felt any risk whilst we were there. We are keeping away from family and friends for the rest of the week here in the UK just as a precaution.
Stay safe.
Rgds,
Aitch.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:56am
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Web Designer Guy wrote on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:36am:
I suspect that when the proper investigation into this mess is undertaken, those two questions are going to be high on the list as a way to hi-light the lack of continuity shown by the government in managing and reacting to the pandemic.
1. Wearing masks in shops: A rule that in real terms will cause almost no-one any real issues. Is easy to instigate and it'll to the re-=opening of the economy... Two-weeks prior warning. ...
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2. Changing FCO advice on travel to Spain and bringing in quarantine rules for returning nationals: A rule that will throw an entire industry into chaos, cause enormous financial hardship to thousands of people, massive staffing issues for hundreds of employers, and last but by no means least create stress for many with untold mental health ramifications: 20 min prior warning.
You really couldn't make this shit up.
Hi,
I think you are over stating the impact of Saturday's announcement. Yes it will impact people and businesses but throwing an entire industry in chaos? We flew from Luton on the 14th July and there were quite a few flights on the board, not that many were going to Spain, perhaps 10%. The industry is already in chaos from the start of lockdowns across Europe and they knew more than most that this could happen. They will be impacted but not excessively. They will certainly be impacted to a much greater extent if the infections spread uncontrolled across the UK and other countries start blocking UK flights.
Rgds,
Aitch.
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:22am
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aitchc1401 wrote on Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:56am:
Hi,
I think you are over stating the impact of Saturday's announcement. Yes it will impact people and businesses but throwing an entire industry in chaos? We flew from Luton on the 14th July and there were quite a few flights on the board, not that many were going to Spain, perha...
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...ps 10%. The industry is already in chaos from the start of lockdowns across Europe and they knew more than most that this could happen. They will be impacted but not excessively. They will certainly be impacted to a much greater extent if the infections spread uncontrolled across the UK and other countries start blocking UK flights.
Rgds,
Aitch.
Easyjet share price today down 12%, Ryanair 11%, TUI 11%, I could go on.
On a smaller level, think of all the bars in Benidorm that has bought back staff and restocked only to now be looking at sending them all home again.
I know this would have happened whether they had 1 hours or 1 months notice, but still, the whole thing stinks of poor management.
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