Debtors in a community complex.

They are named with amount owed in minutes of my local community AGM

Same here. We have a list of debtors in the pre AGM notes stating who isn't allowed to vote. At the meeting the admin ticks off the names of those attending and has a debtor mark next to them. These pre AGM notes are sent to all owners showing the amount due.

One community near us put a list on the public notice board showing debtors but were taken to court as a breach of data protection. However, notifying other owners is acceptable if the names are not shown in public. (That's according to our admin). 

Ongoing problems with debtors and takes a long time to chase them up but the new horizontal laws state that, although you can't bar them from their property, you can bar them from using community amenities such as pools and parking.

As an addenda to the above, it's not actually a "name and shame" notice sent to owners. It is part of the annual notification of expenditure which has to show the payments made, creditors and debtors which will, of course, include the owners who are debtors to the community. All informing us of what has been paid and what is owed.

Hi,

yes its probably how I worded it.  I just meant that as it I believe that identification has to be disclosed to all owners at the AGM that debtors might be embarrased and pay there debts.  I understand that you arent supposed to put a list up for anybody to see.   I think the president will only mention that there are debtors and not who they are and how much is owed as happened last year I want to be ready this year.

Thanks

Dave

Our Community AGM Minutes lists those owners who owe fees as part of the accounts like others have said. The Minutes also advise what action is being taken to recover the money. Luckily we have only one who owes a couple of hundred the rest are just late with the current fees.  There is also a 5% (I think) late fee surcharge.

Bee

A list of debtors is on the AGM agenda sent out prior to the meeting and also on the minutes of the meeting sent out a week or so after. 

Our admin contact anyone who has missed/forgotten a payment prior to the AGM to ensure that they can be up to date for the AGM. 

We generally have less than 5 debtors and all but one of these are usually due to some hiccup in payment. There are rarely, if ever, any repeat "offenders" with one exception being a property owner who stopped paying  several years ago and has since died. The bank now own the property and they never pay the annual fees, which is allowed apparently. We are told that the most the community can recover is 5 years of unpaid debt once the property is eventually sold off.

The debtors and the amounts owed are on the yearly report from the administrators and discussed at the annual owners meeting. Once the meeting agenda goes out ahead of the owners meeting nearly all the debts are settled prior to the meeting. 

Rgds, 

Aitch.

I've joined our Whatsapp community group, after I was told about it by our president.

We received a PDF with details of who voters were and a list of those in default, who as said, can't vote or use the pool etc.

I was shocked. The majority of the community owe money and many owe over 3000 euro!

Quite a few are going to be sued for recovery, at long last, by the look of it. It's a shame, as the fees are really low and some can't have paid for years. The sad part is quite a few of the debtors are obviously BTL companies.

Wow, I wonder how they can get away with not paying for so many years? Owing 3000plus euro must equal many years unpaid. I would have thought if someone had not paid for say 12 months it would be automatically chased through a legal process. 

I wonder how all the bills get paid if there are such limited revenues coming in from the owners?

BTL - is that buy-to-let?

Rgds,

Aitch.