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Do other people find the individuals at the town hall in Gata de Gorgos somewhat incompetent and useless?
No. In truth I do not know them, but I find your comments both pointless and immature.
That seems a bit harsh and uncalled for.
I have no idea about the place in question but it's an indisputable fact that we see far more critical comments about Spanish bureaucracy than we do complimentary and there will be few or us who haven't personally experienced it at some time or another.
Nature of the beast!
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2025 10:38am
Darro wrote on Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:59am:
That seems a bit harsh and uncalled for.
I have no idea about the place in question but it's an indisputable fact that we see far more critical comments about Spanish bureaucracy than we do complimentary and there will be few or us who haven't personally experienced it at some time or another.
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Nature of the beast!
The truth always hurts !!!
Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2025 12:53pm
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graspurrier wrote on Thu Jan 9, 2025 10:38am:
The truth always hurts !!!
If I recall correctly, Graspurrier, have you not posted a couple of times re a saga with Gata over solar panel installation, grants etc?
Could this be a communications issue, I presume you speak Spanish well enough not to need a translator?
Mutual misunderstandings can be a source of many difficulties, especially in rural/ semi rural areas, where the local language is in fact Valenciano although Castellano is of course, a second language to most.
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Posted: Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:02pm
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Darro wrote on Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:59am:
That seems a bit harsh and uncalled for.
I have no idea about the place in question but it's an indisputable fact that we see far more critical comments about Spanish bureaucracy than we do complimentary and there will be few or us who haven't personally experienced it at some time or another.
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Nature of the beast!
Most of the people who complain about the civil servants can't be bothered to learn Spanish, and don't want to pay a translator.
I wonder if any of them have seen the problems that people who don't speak english run into in the UK and other countries.
If you come to live in a country where you don't speak the language I suggest you accept that there are times when you will need to pay for a translator.
The people that work in the Health Centres, Town Halls, Trafico, Police Stations and hospitals are under no obligation to speak english even if they can understand a bit.
Cheers, J
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:40pm
janiceroquero wrote on Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:02pm:
Most of the people who complain about the civil servants can't be bothered to learn Spanish, and don't want to pay a translator.
I wonder if any of them have seen the problems that people who don't speak english run into in the UK and other countries.
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If you come to live in a country where you don't speak the language I suggest you accept that there are times when you will need to pay for a translator.
The people that work in the Health Centres, Town Halls, Trafico, Police Stations and hospitals are under no obligation to speak english even if they can understand a bit.
Cheers, J
"I wonder if any of them have seen the problems that people who don't speak English run into in the UK"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-for-interpreters/guidance-for-interpreters
All paid for by the taxpayer not the non-English speaker!
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:27pm
Lari wrote on Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:40pm:
"I wonder if any of them have seen the problems that people who don't speak English run into in the UK"
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-for-interpreters/guidance-for-interpreters
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All paid for by the taxpayer not the non-English speaker!
What has the inability to speak the language of a country has to do with the incompetence of councillors ???
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:42pm
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graspurrier wrote on Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:27pm:
What has the inability to speak the language of a country has to do with the incompetence of councillors ???
Because, as posited earlier, if one does not have the ability to communicate in a language, then misunderstandings may mutually arise. If there is no mutual comprehension, then assumptions as to actions, abilities, competence etc may not be valid. I would ask again, if you can speak Castellano sufficiently well to make yourself completely understood and equally, to understand the replies you have been given.
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:52pm
Stephanie86 wrote on Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:42pm:
Because, as posited earlier, if one does not have the ability to communicate in a language, then misunderstandings may mutually arise. If there is no mutual comprehension, then assumptions as to actions, abilities, competence etc may not be valid. I would ask again, if you can speak Castellano su...
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...fficiently well to make yourself completely understood and equally, to understand the replies you have been given.
My experience is based on the fact that I have communicated via a Spanish person who speaks very good English !!!
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