Can I visit holiday home as many times in the year as long as it doesn’t exceed the 180 days.
Brexit changes,can I visit holiday homes as many times in the year as long as it doesn’t exceed 180 days
Brexit changes,can I visit holiday homes as many times in the year as long as it doesn’t exceed 180 days
Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 2:33pm
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I am on the understanding, up to 90 days in the first 6 months, then another 90 days in the second 6 months.
Sort of.
It's 90 days in a rolling 180 which starts the day you set foot in the Schengen area.
Example:
If you arrived today then between now and March 2nd. 2021 (180 days hence) you could come and go as many times as you like provided the total did not exceed 90 days.
If you got to 90 days before March then you would have to leave and wait until March 3rd. for the 180 day period to start again.
Handy site, gone in my bookmarks.
Another one here which calculates when your 180 days is up.
https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=3&m1=9&y1=2020&type=add&ay=&am=&aw=&ad=180&rec=
Posted: Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:37pm
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Calle calpe
Being a rolling 90 days
If you arrive in the Schengen area (not just Spain) on 1/1/21 and leave on 15/3/21 that is 74 days
As an example you can return on 16/6/21 (16 day before the end of a 180 period) and stay 90 days as the 90 days are rolling along, but now you cannot return until 90 days have elapsed
But remember a week in Greece or in Germany (anywhere in the Schengen area excepting Ireland) in between at they count 7 nights = 8 days and reduce your time in Spain
so without any other trip to the Area ton he 13th of December you can return and stay for up to 90 days
A lot of people will not be effected as looking at it in a practical way you can do 2 weeks each month and as most months have more that 28 days you will not break the rules without checking dates.
you can do a month and miss a month
Hope this helps
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Posted: Fri Sep 4, 2020 3:34am
oadbyman wrote on Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:37pm:
Calle calpe
Being a rolling 90 days
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If you arrive in the Schengen area (not just Spain) on 1/1/21 and leave on 15/3/21 that is 74 days
As an example you can return on 16/6/21 (16 day before the end of a 180 period) and stay 90 days as the 90 days are rolling along, but now you cannot return until 90 days have elapsed
But remember a week in Greece or in Germany (anywhere in the Schengen area excepting Ireland) in between at they count 7 nights = 8 days and reduce your time in Spain
so without any other trip to the Area ton he 13th of December you can return and stay for up to 90 days
A lot of people will not be effected as looking at it in a practical way you can do 2 weeks each month and as most months have more that 28 days you will not break the rules without checking dates.
you can do a month and miss a month
Hope this helps
Hi you say except Ireland, what's the rule for Ireland?
Posted: Fri Sep 4, 2020 8:45am
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This is very interesting., we own properties in both France and Spain so would probably fall foul of the 90 day issue. However my wife has dual UK and Irish citizenship and we have been told that as long as I am with her in the Schengen area I can exercise “Treaty Rights” and would therefore be exempt from this ?
Posted: Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:13am
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Alan mac wrote on Fri Sep 4, 2020 8:45am:
This is very interesting., we own properties in both France and Spain so would probably fall foul of the 90 day issue. However my wife has dual UK and Irish citizenship and we have been told that as long as I am with her in the Schengen area I can exercise “Treaty Rights” and would therefore ...
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...be exempt from this ?
Point me in the right direction please as I have the right to my Irish Passport.
Ray sorry about the 90/180 mistake yes it is a 180 rolling days and the text reflected that, and yes I was thinking that Ireland were in the Schengen area and the Common travel area sorry for any confusion.
So my corrected post reads
Calle calpe
Being a rolling 180 days
If you arrive in the Schengen area (not just Spain) on 1/1/21 and leave on 15/3/21 that is 74 days
As an example you can return on 16/6/21 (16 day before the end of a 180 period) and stay 90 days as the 90 days are rolling along, but now you cannot return until 90 days have elapsed
But remember a week in Greece or in Germany (anywhere in the Schengen area) in between at they count 7 nights = 8 days and reduce your time in Spain (Ireland is in the Common Travel area and both UK and IE passport holders are free to travel in this area, other EU countries not in the Schengen area will have their own rules but these should not effect the 180 rolling days unless you have to travel through the Schengen area to get to your destination)
so without any other trip to the Area ton he 13th of December you can return and stay for up to 90 days
A lot of people will not be effected as looking at it in a practical way you can do 2 weeks each month and as most months have more that 28 days you will not break the rules without checking dates.
you can do a month and miss a month
Hope this helps
Posted: Fri Sep 4, 2020 12:09pm
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Hi Ray
I think you are wrong, I think the 16 days give you 90 days in the first 180 days, so staying drop off a day from the rolling calendar,the first of which in the example is the first day in January, so you can stay up to 90 days from the date of entry.
If you did then you would not be able to return for 90 days, each day less than 90 would bring forward your earliest return date.
So if you stayed for 30 days then on leaving they would have 60 days from the 16/6/21 left of the 90 days.
I did a excel spreadsheet to work it out as we spend about 3 months in the winter a month in June'ish and 6 weeks in the Autumn, and would need to reduce our winter break to suit the 90 days.
Unless Treaty Rights allows my wife to be with me - anyone who knows more on this post or Private Message me - Please
If I find out more then I will post an update
Posted: Fri Sep 4, 2020 1:00pm
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oadbyman wrote on Fri Sep 4, 2020 11:13am:
Point me in the right direction please as I have the right to my Irish Passport.
Ray sorry about the 90/180 mistake yes it is a 180 rolling days and the text reflected that, and yes I was thinking that Ireland were in the Schengen area and the Common travel area sorry for any confusion.
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So my corrected post reads
Calle calpe
Being a rolling 180 days
If you arrive in the Schengen area (not just Spain) on 1/1/21 and leave on 15/3/21 that is 74 days
As an example you can return on 16/6/21 (16 day before the end of a 180 period) and stay 90 days as the 90 days are rolling along, but now you cannot return until 90 days have elapsed
But remember a week in Greece or in Germany (anywhere in the Schengen area) in between at they count 7 nights = 8 days and reduce your time in Spain (Ireland is in the Common Travel area and both UK and IE passport holders are free to travel in this area, other EU countries not in the Schengen area will have their own rules but these should not effect the 180 rolling days unless you have to travel through the Schengen area to get to your destination)
so without any other trip to the Area ton he 13th of December you can return and stay for up to 90 days
A lot of people will not be effected as looking at it in a practical way you can do 2 weeks each month and as most months have more that 28 days you will not break the rules without checking dates.
you can do a month and miss a month
Hope this helps
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