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Can anyone recommend: Central Heating

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:06pm
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Hi, our house was very cold this winter (it was colder inside during the day than it was outside) so I have been considering heating options. There is a fireplace and I wondered about the possibility of installing some sort of wood burning stove that can run radiators. There are lots of trees on our property so the wood would be plentiful and free. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of installation?

Thanks in advance

Alex

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:37pm

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We've installed bottled gas central heating which entailed digging channels in the tiled floors for the pipework but we were doing major renovations anyway including adding a layer of insulation internally to all external walls and taking down all ceilings and packing them with insulation and we now have a nice warm house. I didn't want pipework surface mounted or boxing everywhere. After our first winter I also didn't want anything that meant I had to store loads of wood in the dry and come home to a cold house and then have to start the process of starting up the fire. With the combi boiler we also have unlimited instant hot water
Someone on here recommended storage heaters which have come on a long way and take advantage of the cheap rate electric at night.
Others rely on a combination of heating methods, air con, wall heaters, open fires, woodburners and plug in radiators but as my other half is a plumber there was only ever one option for me and we ordered all we needed from Screwfix. It also fixed all the damp problems.

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:42pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:42pm

Cheryl wrote on Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:37pm:

We've installed bottled gas central heating which entailed digging channels in the tiled floors for the pipework but we were doing major renovations anyway including adding a layer of insulation internally to all external walls and taking down all ceilings and packing them with insulation and we ...

...now have a nice warm house. I didn't want pipework surface mounted or boxing everywhere. After our first winter I also didn't want anything that meant I had to store loads of wood in the dry and come home to a cold house and then have to start the process of starting up the fire. With the combi boiler we also have unlimited instant hot water
Someone on here recommended storage heaters which have come on a long way and take advantage of the cheap rate electric at night.
Others rely on a combination of heating methods, air con, wall heaters, open fires, woodburners and plug in radiators but as my other half is a plumber there was only ever one option for me and we ordered all we needed from Screwfix. It also fixed all the damp problems.

Thanks Cheryl. We do specifically want to use the wood though and I know that it is possible as I have seen such a system in place and I just wondered if anyone knew how to get one. I might just end up installing an extra wood burner at the back of the house, which would probably keep the place warm enough.

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:24pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:24pm

Cheryl wrote on Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:37pm:

We've installed bottled gas central heating which entailed digging channels in the tiled floors for the pipework but we were doing major renovations anyway including adding a layer of insulation internally to all external walls and taking down all ceilings and packing them with insulation and we ...

...now have a nice warm house. I didn't want pipework surface mounted or boxing everywhere. After our first winter I also didn't want anything that meant I had to store loads of wood in the dry and come home to a cold house and then have to start the process of starting up the fire. With the combi boiler we also have unlimited instant hot water
Someone on here recommended storage heaters which have come on a long way and take advantage of the cheap rate electric at night.
Others rely on a combination of heating methods, air con, wall heaters, open fires, woodburners and plug in radiators but as my other half is a plumber there was only ever one option for me and we ordered all we needed from Screwfix. It also fixed all the damp problems.

Plenty of info on this forum re log burners. Pine doesn't make good burning wood (if you have pine trees), and some pines are protected.

I haven't seen a log burner with c/h connections.

I agree with Cheryl ... after 2 winters with a log burner it was a no-brainer. We put in propane, radiators and a combi boiler. 

All good now.

Karen9999

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:01am

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:01am

Kelvin1960 wrote on Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:24pm:

Plenty of info on this forum re log burners. Pine doesn't make good burning wood (if you have pine trees), and some pines are protected.

I haven't seen a log burner with c/h connections.

I agree with Cheryl ... after 2 winters with a log burner it was a no-brainer. We put in propane, radiators and a combi boiler. 

All good now.

Contact Budget Burners.   We have one log burner in the lounge, it heats our two bed villa.   

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Cheryl

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:50am

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Karen9999 wrote on Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:01am:

Contact Budget Burners.   We have one log burner in the lounge, it heats our two bed villa.   

This will depend on the size of the property. If you have a terraced home of about 50 m2 a log burner should be enough but if, like us, you have 140 m2 in the countryside and exposed on all sides then it won't.

alexaragona

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:58am

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:58am

Cheryl wrote on Wed Jun 17, 2020 10:50am:

This will depend on the size of the property. If you have a terraced home of about 50 m2 a log burner should be enough but if, like us, you have 140 m2 in the countryside and exposed on all sides then it won't.

I see what you mean. The house is quite exposed and is not small by any means. I think a single log burner would probably not heat the whole place, hence why I thought of having a system of radiators connected to it. When we were looking at houses I actually viewed a house that had such a system in place. 

alexaragona

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:01pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:01pm

Karen9999 wrote on Wed Jun 17, 2020 8:01am:

Contact Budget Burners.   We have one log burner in the lounge, it heats our two bed villa.   

Thanks Karen, their website looks very convincing. Roughly how big is the villa? Mine has a ground floor of about 120 sqM. I don't really use the upper floor (which is a big studio) so am happy to leave it with just an electric radiator to dispel any damp.

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:10pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:10pm

The type of item you are referring to is one with a 'back boiler', these were commonplace in the UK many years ago.

There are a few wood and pellet burners which have this facility however you should note that physically they can be much bigger, to facilitate the boiler part.

I personally have not come across a wood burner with this facility in Spain as of yet, that does not mean they do not exist of course!

I would follow up on the suggestion of contacting Budget Burners.

A contact I have may also be able to help? I know he does Gas Central Heating installations but he may also know about your specific requirements. 

I am not sure if posting telephone numbers in the open forum is allowed so please PM me and I will pass you Kirk's details.

Hope it helps

Kelvin1960

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:26pm

alexaragona wrote on Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:58am:

I see what you mean. The house is quite exposed and is not small by any means. I think a single log burner would probably not heat the whole place, hence why I thought of having a system of radiators connected to it. When we were looking at houses I actually viewed a house that had such a system ...

...in place. 

Our house is a detached bungalow. It loses heat from every surface.

The single log burner in a central position was hopeless. One room was hot, one was just OK and the rest of the house was a fridge.

The novelty of obtaining oak, olive and citrus wood wore off. The morning clean-out became a chore. Much dust and dirt was produced.

Now we just press a button and the whole house warms up. The propane is delivered to us (the day after we phone them up). 

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