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Flock of goats

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:37pm
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alavib

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Hi all 

Recently I noticed on many occasions that a large flock of goats and sheep have been brought out to La Marina orb road to Lidl for grazing!!

These animals are leaving large amount of droppings everywhere specially on pavements!!

Now if one’s dog does such littering there is a 1000 Euros fine but these sheep and Goats do it day in and day out and much much more as the number in the flock is almost close to 100 and nothing is done about it!!

So who is responsible for this as bringing flock of grazing animals must surely be not allowed in residential areas

Thx

Villas

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:26pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:26pm

alavib wrote on Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:37pm:

Hi all 

Recently I noticed on many occasions that a large flock of goats and sheep have been brought out to La Marina orb road to Lidl for grazing!!

These animals are leaving large amount of droppings everywhere specially on pavements!!

Now if one’s dog does such littering there is a 1000 Euros fine but these sheep and Goats do it day in and day out and much much more as the number in the flock is almost close to 100 and nothing is done about it!!

So who is responsible for this as bringing flock of grazing animals must surely be not allowed in residential areas

Thx

I am not (very often) tending towards a point or in a sarcastic way, in which people or things are dissimilar.....(OK sometimes?..... maybe)....., but OK, I´ll not go vegan. The cows will not give up methane, the goat-herd´s grazing rights, & I´ll enjoy the local goat´s cheese.

Sorry, but in answer to your question, "who is responsible for this as bringing flock of grazing animals"........

A. Pastor de cabras.

Q. not the cabron(ico).

V

Kimmy11

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:54pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:54pm

If it's the same herd, the shepherd has two dogs with him - a Border Collie (of course) and a larger, white dog.  They've munched their way through about 10,000 sq m of artichokes plants, spoiled by the floods, in the farmer's field alongside us.  The last time I saw them was in a field in Daya Vieja - the shepherd drove them from there down our camino, what a mess!  Still, we've got 3 or 4 days of rain starting tomorrow, so that should get rid of it.  Personally, I love seeing them.

Villas

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:11pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:11pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:54pm:

If it's the same herd, the shepherd has two dogs with him - a Border Collie (of course) and a larger, white dog.  They've munched their way through about 10,000 sq m of artichokes plants, spoiled by the floods, in the farmer's field alongside us.  The last time I saw them was in a field...

... in Daya Vieja - the shepherd drove them from there down our camino, what a mess!  Still, we've got 3 or 4 days of rain starting tomorrow, so that should get rid of it.  Personally, I love seeing them.

Kimmy, Is that,.......

 "they should get rid of it. Border Collies, the 10,000 sq m of artichokes, or the farmer alongside us with a lonely goat-herd. with we've got 3 or 4 days of rain starting tomorrow."  Says Jim. (the "Fish"! ), is going to pessimists it down. As an optimistic, I think sun.

Kimmy11

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:40pm

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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:40pm

No, the rain should get rid of the goat poop, hahaha!  I was trying to be delicate, V2!  :o)

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Movingon

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:02am

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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:02am

Shepherding is still a way of life in Spain and will have been so for centuries. 

Sources of grazing are continually being lost to land development etc. so you can't blame shepherd's for having to move their flocks around to find it. They do the land good too. 

They are not going to stop because you don't like it and if it bothers you that much then there are other ways to get to Lidl and Iceland.

Villas

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16am

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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16am

Movingon wrote on Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:02am:

Shepherding is still a way of life in Spain and will have been so for centuries. 

Sources of grazing are continually being lost to land development etc. so you can't blame shepherd's for having to move their flocks around to find it. They do the land good too. 

They are not going to stop because you don't like it and if it bothers you that much then there are other ways to get to Lidl and Iceland.

I like "Movingon" & quite fitting in this context:

A group of goats is called a tribe or a trip.

A group of Ex-pats called prats etc: (& there are many versions…..) Most of the following list:  eat, digest & defecate. (& so, be careful where you step!)

  • An array of hedgehogs

  • An army of ants/caterpillars/frogs

  • An ascension of larks

  • A badling of ducks

  • A bale of turtles

  • A ballet of swans

  • A band of coyotes/gorillas/jays/men

  • A barrel of monkeys

  • A barren of mules

  • A bask of crocodiles

  • A battery of barracudas

  • A bazaar of guillemots

  • A bed of clams/eels/oysters/snakes

  • A bevy of quail/roebucks/swans

  • A bloat of hippos

  • A bouquet of pheasants

  • A brace of ducks/grouse

  • A brood of chicks/hens/pheasants

  • A building of rooks

  • A bury of conies/rabbits

  • A business of ferrets/flies

  • A caravan of camels

  • A cast of falcons/hawks

  • A cete of badgers

  • A chain of bobolinks

  • A charm of falcons/finches/magpies

  • A chattering of choughs

  • A clamour of rooks

  • A cloud of gnats/bats/grasshoppers

  • A clowder of cats

  • A cluster of bees/grasshoppers

  • A clutch of chicks

  • A clutter of cats/starlings

  • A colony of ants/beavers/gulls/penguins/rabbits

  • A company of parrots/widgeons

  • A congregation of plover/people

  • A congress of baboons

  • A conspiracy of ravens

  • A convocation of eagles

  • A cover of coots

  • A covey of grouse/partridges/pheasants/ptarmigans/quail

  • A cowardice of curs

  • A crash of rhinos

  • A crowd of people

  • A cry of hounds

  • A culture of bacteria

  • A deceit of lapwings

  • A descent of woodpeckers

  • A dissimulation of birds

  • A dole of doves

  • A down of hares

  • A doylt of swine

  • A draught of fish

  • A dray of squirrels

  • A drift of swine

  • A dropping of pigeons

  • A drove of cattle

  • A drumming of grouse

  • A dule of doves

  • A durante of toucans

  • An earth of foxes

  • An exaltation of larks

  • A fall of woodcocks

  • A family of otter

  • A fesnyng of ferrets

  • A field of racehorses

  • A flight of birds/butterflies/cormorants/doves/goshawks/swallows

  • A flink of cows (12+)

  • A float of crocodiles

  • A flock of geese/lice/sheep

  • A fluther of jellyfish

  • A gaggle of geese (or, if in flight, "a Skane)

  • A gam of whales

  • A gang of buffalo/elk

  • A gatling of woodpeckers

  • A generation of vipers

  • A grist of bees

  • A gulp of cormorants/magpies

  • A harras of horses

  • A herd of buffaloes/curlews/elephants/horse/kangaroo/pigs/wrens

  • A hide of tigers

  • A hive of bees

  • A horde of gnats

  • A host of sparrows

  • A hover of trout

  • A hum of bees

  • A husk of hares/jackrabbits

  • An intrigue of kittens

  • An intrusion of cockroaches

  • A kennel of dogs

  • A kettle of hawks

  • A kindle of kittens

  • A kine of cows

  • A knot of snakes/toads

  • A labour of moles

  • A lamentation of swans

  • A leap of hares/leopards

  • A leash of foxes/greyhounds

  • A litter of cubs/pigs/puppies

  • A mask of raccoons

  • A mob of kangaroos/emus

  • A murder of crows/magpies

  • A murmuration or exultation of starlings

  • A muster of peacocks

  • A mustering of storks

  • A mutation of thrushes

  • A mute of hounds

  • An obstinacy of buffalo

  • An ostentation of peacocks

  • A muster of storks

  • A mute of hounds

  • A nest of hornets/mice/rabbits/vipers/wasps

  • A nye/nide of pheasants

  • A pace of asses

  • A pack of hounds/rats/wolves

  • A paddling of ducks

  • A pair of horses

  • A pandemonium of parrots

  • A parade of elephants

  • A parliament of owls/rooks

  • A party of jays

  • A passel/parcel of hogs

  • A peep of chickens

  • A piteousness of doves

  • A pitying of turtledoves

  • A pladge of wasps

  • A plague of locusts

  • A plump of waterfowl/wildfowl

  • A pod of boar/dolphin/seals/walrus/whales

  • A pounce of cats

  • A prattle of parrots

  • A prickle of hedgehogs/porcupines

  • A pride of lions

  • A quiver of cobras

  • A rafter of turkeys

  • A rag of colts

  • A ramuda of horses

  • A rhumba of rattlesnakes

  • A richness of martens

  • A romp of otters

  • A rookery of penguins

  • A rout of wolves

  • A rumpus of baboons

  • A run of poultry

  • A rush of pochard

  • A school of fish/porpoises

  • A scold of jays

  • A sedge of cranes

  • A shiver of sharks

  • A shoal of bass/pilchards/shad

  • A shrewdness of apes

  • A siege of cranes/herons

  • A singular of boars

  • A skein of geese/pheasants

  • A skulk of foxes/larks/quail

  • A sleuth/sloth of bears

  • A smack/smuth of jellyfish

  • A sneak of weasels

  • A sord of mallards

  • A sounder of wild swine/boars/foxes

  • A span of mules

  • A spring of teal

  • A squabble of seagulls

  • A stand of flamingo

  • A stench of skunks

  • A streak of tigers

  • A string of ponies/horses

  • A stud of mares

  • A swarm of ants/bees/eels

  • A team of horses/ducks/oxen

  • A swarm of bees

  • A thunder of hippos

  • A tiding of magpies

  • A tittering of magpies

  • A tok of capercaillie

  • A totter/tower of giraffes

  • A tribe of goats/monkeys/dotterel

  • A trip of goats

  • A troop of baboons/monkeys/kangaroos

  • A turn of turtles

  • An ubiquity of sparrows

  • An unkindness of ravens

  • A volary of birds

  • A wake of buzzards/vultures

  • A walk of snipe

  • A warren of rabbits

  • A watch of nightingales

  • A wedge of geese/swans

  • A wing of plovers

  • A wisdom (or parliament)of owls

  • A wisp of snipe

  • A yoke of oxen

alavib

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:54am

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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:54am

Personally I too like the herd of such animals but my point is where we live and just beside the La Marina Urb there are many large over grown fields which these animals can graze and their droppings will help as fertilizer for re- grow 

So I find it strange that the Shepards are choosing small parcels of land in such residential areas for grazing 

And the droppings are kind of wasted 

Kimmy11

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:21am

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Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:21am

Hi alavib,

I understand what you're saying about "overgrown fields", but even such areas without boundaries are usually owned by someone.  The shepherd (goat herder?) may simply be grazing his animals where he knows he can.

I absolutely agree about droppings making good fertilizer - although a bit more effort required to gather them up!  😂

Kind regards,

Kim

Carol Goddard

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:35pm

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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:35pm

I just want to say these goats and sheep have been doing this for many years at least 30 that I know ...I don't think the farmer or herdsman will have any reaction from hearing complaints about them..or the council of San fulgencio who allow it to happen...its part of living in there territory.....its quite rendering to see them still..reminds us how La Marina was ...years ago....xxx

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