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Transferring funds from the UK.

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:27pm
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Krisstina58

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Hi guys

My husband and myself are just waiting fo r our NLVs to be granted.  We have opened an account with Santander Spain to pay our utilities when we move over.  We are pensioners and our state and private pensions are paid into our Santander UK accounts.  Should we change the pensions to the Spanish account or

 would we be liable fr Spanish tax.  Also, we have a joint account with the UK Santander which has over £25,000 in it -  should we change that over to the Spanish account.  Thank you so much for all your help. 

marcliff

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:52pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:52pm

1. When you become residents in Spain you will be liable to tax on all your worldwide income no matter where you get it paid into. You must inform the UK HMRC that you are now resident in Spain with a Form Spain Individual so that UK stops charging you tax. You could be liable to pay tax in both countries if you do not, the only exemptions being Crown pensions (Forces, police, civil service pensions etc) which remain liable to tax in UK.

2. Pensions paid directly to a Spanish bank do not generally attract a transfer fee if paid by the pension company. Your state pension can be paid direct to the bank account with no charges and private pensions will not attract a fee if paid by the pension company.

3. If you transfer your current joint account to a Spanish branch it could attract a fee for doing so as it is not a pension or money from employment. However, Santander may be different so check with the branch manager first and ask for their T&Cs.

4. You will not be charged in Spain for any money you hold in a UK bank account. You need to declare it annually on a Form 720 if over 50,000 euro (along with property and investments if over 50,000 euro but the only tax will be on any interest you earn as interest is included in your world wide income. 

5. If you are selling property in UK make sure you do not sell it in the same year you become tax resident in Spain, that is, the year you  spend more than 6 months in one calendar year here as you will be liable to Capital Gains Tax on the sale, if you've sold it this year and move to Spain to become resident next year then there will be no CGT to pay. Sell it in the first 6 months of the year and become resident in the first 6 months of the year then CGT, at quite a high rate, will be liable. (Spain doesn't do part years for tax status, over 6 months liable for the entire year, under 6 months not liable until the following year.)

Best of luck.

Krisstina58

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:31pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:31pm

marcliff wrote on Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:52pm:

1. When you become residents in Spain you will be liable to tax on all your worldwide income no matter where you get it paid into. You must inform the UK HMRC that you are now resident in Spain with a Form Spain Individual so that UK stops charging you tax. You could be liable to pay tax in both ...

...countries if you do not, the only exemptions being Crown pensions (Forces, police, civil service pensions etc) which remain liable to tax in UK.

2. Pensions paid directly to a Spanish bank do not generally attract a transfer fee if paid by the pension company. Your state pension can be paid direct to the bank account with no charges and private pensions will not attract a fee if paid by the pension company.

3. If you transfer your current joint account to a Spanish branch it could attract a fee for doing so as it is not a pension or money from employment. However, Santander may be different so check with the branch manager first and ask for their T&Cs.

4. You will not be charged in Spain for any money you hold in a UK bank account. You need to declare it annually on a Form 720 if over 50,000 euro (along with property and investments if over 50,000 euro but the only tax will be on any interest you earn as interest is included in your world wide income. 

5. If you are selling property in UK make sure you do not sell it in the same year you become tax resident in Spain, that is, the year you  spend more than 6 months in one calendar year here as you will be liable to Capital Gains Tax on the sale, if you've sold it this year and move to Spain to become resident next year then there will be no CGT to pay. Sell it in the first 6 months of the year and become resident in the first 6 months of the year then CGT, at quite a high rate, will be liable. (Spain doesn't do part years for tax status, over 6 months liable for the entire year, under 6 months not liable until the following year.)

Best of luck.

Hi Marcliff,


Thank you so much for your kind reply it is much appreciated.👍

Darro

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:30pm

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:30pm

"Should we change the pensions to the Spanish account or would we be liable fr Spanish tax"

How can you possibly be choosing to move to Spain without knowing that you will be liable for taxation here?

Herefordjack

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:43am

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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:43am

marcliff wrote on Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:52pm:

1. When you become residents in Spain you will be liable to tax on all your worldwide income no matter where you get it paid into. You must inform the UK HMRC that you are now resident in Spain with a Form Spain Individual so that UK stops charging you tax. You could be liable to pay tax in both ...

...countries if you do not, the only exemptions being Crown pensions (Forces, police, civil service pensions etc) which remain liable to tax in UK.

2. Pensions paid directly to a Spanish bank do not generally attract a transfer fee if paid by the pension company. Your state pension can be paid direct to the bank account with no charges and private pensions will not attract a fee if paid by the pension company.

3. If you transfer your current joint account to a Spanish branch it could attract a fee for doing so as it is not a pension or money from employment. However, Santander may be different so check with the branch manager first and ask for their T&Cs.

4. You will not be charged in Spain for any money you hold in a UK bank account. You need to declare it annually on a Form 720 if over 50,000 euro (along with property and investments if over 50,000 euro but the only tax will be on any interest you earn as interest is included in your world wide income. 

5. If you are selling property in UK make sure you do not sell it in the same year you become tax resident in Spain, that is, the year you  spend more than 6 months in one calendar year here as you will be liable to Capital Gains Tax on the sale, if you've sold it this year and move to Spain to become resident next year then there will be no CGT to pay. Sell it in the first 6 months of the year and become resident in the first 6 months of the year then CGT, at quite a high rate, will be liable. (Spain doesn't do part years for tax status, over 6 months liable for the entire year, under 6 months not liable until the following year.)

Best of luck.

As always, Marcliff gives excellent advice. I would just add that there's no point transferring your joint account to Spain unless you need to use the money here, because interest rates on Spanish savings accounts are derisory.

You would be better keeping it in the UK or opening an offshore savings account, which is legal as long as you declare the income earned on your Spanish tax return. If keeping it in the UK, check that the provider allows Spanish residents to hold their accounts. Some providers do not since Brexit.

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