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Posted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:51pm
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Hi everyone, 

We are considering buying in la Marina. Ideallly we would like to fully relocate but my husband is in construction and as I understand work is pretty thin on the ground. We have two properties one of which we are going to sell in order to fund our new home in Spain.. the other would pull in about £1200 a month rental yield which would be a good supplement to any income alternatively if decided to stay long term we could sell and invest it in to a new business. I have 4 children, my eldest is just doing his GCSEs atm and the rest are primary school age. All of us are (or attempting) to learn Spanish. Just looking for advice on how to move forward. I want a better life for my children than England offers not work opportunities but lifestyle and I think Spain could offer that for them. Ive have lost all my family in the last 4 years so no longer have any ties in uk and my husband is from USA originally so wouldn’t miss uk partially.

Everyone’s dream has to start somewhere 

Thanks for reading

Becki 

Dave mackallen

Thu May 17, 2018 1:41pm

Posts: 16

Location: Denia

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:41pm

Hi Becki, 

Best advise I can give is,not to start looking at buying a bar,as I tried with a partner a few years back,and found nothing but hard work 18 hour a day ,and the licensing trade in Spain is not good if your English.

Everything is against you,ad you will definitely end up out of pocket,but having the rental from your uk investment looks really promising,and the cost of living in Spain is half the cost of uk, your live ok

Be lucky

Dave

Beckimj1983

Beckimj1983

Original Poster

Thu May 17, 2018 1:47pm

Posts: 4

Location: La Marina

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 1:47pm

Thanks so much for you reply I totally agree with how hard it must be, I have thought about it but I have thought just how hard it would be. I was thinking along the lines of a cafe that sold alcohol but now I will rethink. Thanks so much taking the time to reply. Much appreciated xx

Dave mackallen

Thu May 17, 2018 2:17pm

Posts: 16

Location: Denia

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Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:17pm

Hi Beckie,

Just to add, when I first went to Spain,to visit a friend in La Marina, I looked at a few places,that was twenty years ago,and my friend had been there for 15 years at the time,and he was moving to Almeria, I did ask him why the move,as he was getting older,and he told me that he was fed up with tourists in the summer months mainly parking everywhere,even over his driveway.

It’s so commercialised it was getting him and his wife mad, so be warned about La Marina ,and I am in the process of purchasing in Beniarbeig near Denia just out of the way enough not to have that problem,as I can easily get to the coast,but don’t have to reside there..

Dave

Beckimj1983

Beckimj1983

Original Poster

Thu May 17, 2018 2:21pm

Posts: 4

Location: La Marina

Posted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:21pm

Thankyou very much I will keep that in mind xx

RayD

Fri May 18, 2018 9:46am

Posts: 45

Location: Catral

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Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:46am

Dave mackallen wrote:

Hi Beckie,

Just to add, when I first went to Spain,to visit a friend in La Marina, I looked at a few places,that was twenty years ago,and my friend had been there for 15 years at the time,and he was moving to Almeria, I did ask him why the move,as he was getting older,and he told me that he was fed up with tourists in the summer months mainly parking everywhere,even over his driveway.

It’s so commercialised it was getting him and his wife mad, so be warned about La Marina ,and I am in the process of purchasing in Beniarbeig near Denia just out of the way enough not to have that problem,as I can easily get to the coast,but don’t have to reside there..

Dave

HI Becki, it all depends on what you want from Spain. If you live in a place like La Marina, forget learning Spanish as everyone speaks English. If you want to live in an English ghetto without seeing anything Spanish, then that's the place for you. If you want to live in the real Spain, then have a look at some of the Spanish towns in the area. Although they are Spanish and the language spoken is Spanish, there are usually a few brits around to remind you of where you came from. If you are prepared to integrate fully with a Spanish community, you won't regret it.

Don't be tempted to send the children to international schools. The Spanish education system is second to none and the children usually pick up Spanish a lot quicker than us adults do.

As for work, it will be the same wherever you live. To work outside of an urbanisation you really do need to be fluent in Spanish, but it comes easier when those around you speak it. An urbanisation like La Marina has so many bars that a new one is virtually doomed to failure. It might be possible to get work in a bar in a Spanish town and then branch out by yourselves.

I hope all goes well and that you learn to love this wonderful country we have adopted.

Ray D

Beckimj1983

Beckimj1983

Original Poster

Fri May 18, 2018 10:09am

Posts: 4

Location: La Marina

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 10:09am

Hi ray, do you have any names of places for me to look at please xx

RayD

Fri May 18, 2018 3:17pm

Posts: 45

Location: Catral

18 helpful posts

Posted: Fri May 18, 2018 3:17pm

Hi Beckie, we live in Catral, a medium sized Spanish town about 20km from the south Costa Blanca coast, or about 30 minute drive. There is a choice of either living in the centre of town, or in one of the clusters of villas just outside. There is an expat population, but nowhere as near as bad or obtrusive as living on an urbanisation. Most expats live in the villas just outside, but not all. Similar towns nearby are Dolores and Almoradí, the latter a bit bigger. We are far enough away from the coast not to be bothered by holidaymakers, most of the time. 

The Spanish schools in Catral are very well thought of by UK residents who have sent their children there and the youngsters grow up with the language and culture of their school mates. The education system here is excellent. There is a primary school, secondary and a Centro de Formación which caters for further education - my wife and I go to Spanish classes there twice a week and we meet up with the teenage students learning English or other subjects in the evening. Our Spanish classes are taught in Spanish and we have French, Swiss and Dutch classmates.

It is easy to integrate into the Spanish lifestyle and community, if that is what you want and the Spanish people are very welcoming and accommodating. If you do get stuck with the language, there are translators around who will help out for a fee, but you do need to learn the language if you want to integrate properly. It's the same in any country. On the urbanisations they don't bother and it's a bit like the TV programme Benidorm - no one speaks Spanish and it's all 'English pubs and fish and chips'. It depends what you want from your Spanish experience.

We are retired, but we know several expats who work, either bars, estate agents or in the service industry. There are English bars and cafés in all the towns, so it can be done. Most of them however only cater for an expat clientele.

Google is useful for looking up towns and you can use streetview to wander around and see if it's to your taste. Obviously the nearer you get to the coast, the more touristy it is and that isn't the real Spain.

I hope this helps a bit. Do some research online and decide what sort of lifestyle you want.

Ray D

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mal johnson

Sun May 20, 2018 1:30pm

Posts: 125

Location: La Marina

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:30pm

Hi Beckie, I have a property in La Marina, and it is not just bars that are on the Urb, there are good restaurants and several supermarkets, including Iceland and Lidl. I know that Iceland employ english people, so perhaps if you went on line to enquire about employment, that would be an option until you could secure something more permanent.

maninspain

Sun May 20, 2018 6:50pm

Posts: 26

Location: Santa Pola

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Posted: Sun May 20, 2018 6:50pm

Beckimj1983 wrote:

Hi everyone, 

We are considering buying in la Marina. Ideallly we would like to fully relocate but my husband is in construction and as I understand work is pretty thin on the ground. We have two properties one of which we are going to sell in order to fund our new home in Spain.. the other would pull in about £1200 a month rental yield which would be a good supplement to any income alternatively if decided to stay long term we could sell and invest it in to a new business. I have 4 children, my eldest is just doing his GCSEs atm and the rest are primary school age. All of us are (or attempting) to learn Spanish. Just looking for advice on how to move forward. I want a better life for my children than England offers not work opportunities but lifestyle and I think Spain could offer that for them. Ive have lost all my family in the last 4 years so no longer have any ties in uk and my husband is from USA originally so wouldn’t miss uk partially.

Everyone’s dream has to start somewhere 

Thanks for reading

Becki 

I have to say, La Marina itself as a village is away from the 'urbanisation La Marina' which you and others posting on this thread seem to be referring to and which comes under a different region is very different. The village lies some 4Klm from the Urb and is a quaint little village which has been modernized in recent years and is near to the sea. It is quite Spanish although there are a lot of English living here. It would be a shame to see you miss out on looking at this lovely village which incidentally has an English academy which teaches the English curriculum and is growing.

One cannot and must not equate one with the other and there are some nice properties to rent and purchase here and the village has banks, restaurant, shops, restaurants, clinic etc and a camping resort just on the outskirts where you might even get employment. You really need to see for yourself. Good luck with your future life.

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