Are there any petitions for longer than 90 days to stay in Spain with a Holliday home? - Page 2

I believe things may get even more difficult when the UK will unilaterally scrap the NI protocol which seems an inevitability with the current stalemate in the political environment in N.Ireland.  
European stance may well harden resulting in more problems for all.

I absolutely agree but unfortunately there are these people for whom the only suitable word is remoaners who read forums like vultures waiting to hijack any questions.

The question this post raised was "Are there any petitions to support a change by Spain or the EU with regard to the 90 day limit but they bring the conversation down to their resentment of the UK vote. Its a selfish, unhelpful attitude.

Does anyone know of any petitions?

Hi Allank,

So did you find any petitions, or couldn't be bothered to look?  

This article shows that the UK government weren't interested in negotiating the extension of the 90/180 rule for its citizens:

https://www.connexionfrance.com/article/French-news/Brexit/Why-can-UK-holiday-home-owners-not-spend-six-months-in-France

Last year, Ronald Ireland created this petition to the UK government.  It had so little interest, it was closed after 6 months with less than 20,000 signatures:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/569365

And British retiree, Gordon Knight, a property owner in France, also initiated a petition last year, urging the UK government to negotiate a 6-months' visa-free period in France’s territory.  It also failed.

As far as I have been able to determine, there are currently no 'live' petitions running on this subject.  That does not mean that anyone who feels strongly about the matter couldn't start their own.

However, this explains why any petition, to either the UK or Spanish governments, is highly unlikely to be successful:

http://www.bremaininspain.com/bylines/extending-the-90-in-180-day-rule-for-british-in-spain/

Brexiteers keep trying to tell us that "Brexit is done", when it clearly is not.  Instead of resorting to the selfish, unhelpful "remoaner" insult, you could have done something useful, such as  researching the subject and answering the question yourself.

Regards, 

Kim

This mornings news/newspapers seem to think that a UK move to unilaterally move on the treaty is a real possibility 

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2022/0515/1298076-coveney-northern-ireland/

It's been widely reported in the UK press this week and even a former P. M. warned against it. 

However, it doesn't look good 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10817983/Kwasi-Kwarteng-plays-chances-bitter-EU-trade-war-Northern-Ireland-Protocol-row.html

Why on earth is anyone bothering to petition the UK Government? They don't make EU or even Spanish law. 

Its not a problem for the UK Government in fact they would be letting down most of the UK to encourage a minority to spend more of their money abroad. 

The UK Government funds the UK tourism office to attract foreign tourists to UK hence they allow more flexible rules to EU citizens.

I meant petitions to the responsible Government Spain. They are the ones who receive our SUMA, non resident taxes etc and who will be big beneficiaries of any extended stay by UK citizens. 

Thing is though it’s not sorted out is it?They keep complaining about the NI protocol and I still don’t have a Unicorn.

Perhaps you could supply a grid reference for the sunlit uplands, or haven't they been found yet? 

Hi Allank,

So did you find any such Petitions to the EU or Spain?

Regards,

Kim

I actually hear what you are saying, but from a slightly different perspective.

I voted remain, and on balance it would ‘probably’ would have been better (at least in the short to medium term, who really knows what a decade holds) if we stayed on board, I don’t moan about the democratic decision and will adhere to the decision that was gained from the 2016 ballot (& subsequent council/general election results) that reinforces the populations wish to exit the EU.

Brexit is far from perfect, far from answering all the questions and this state of affairs is not like to change anytime soon…. however, and this is important… as a nation a decision was made, a decision we will learn to accept and deal with……. What seems to fall on deaf ears is that this is democratic, by a democratic voice and a democratic process and that my friends is the one positive we should take away from all of this, not doing so has consequences than non of us wish to happen.