Are there any petitions for longer than 90 days to stay in Spain with a Holliday home? - Page 3

BeniSnowbird wrote on Sun May 15, 2022 8:42pm:

I actually hear what you are saying, but from a slightly different perspective.

I voted remain, and on balance it would ‘probably’ would have been better (at least in the short to medium term, who really knows what a decade holds) if we stayed on board, I don’t moan about the democratic decision and will adhere to the decision that was gained from the 2016 ballot (&...

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...; subsequent council/general election results) that reinforces the populations wish to exit the EU.

Brexit is far from perfect, far from answering all the questions and this state of affairs is not like to change anytime soon…. however, and this is important… as a nation a decision was made, a decision we will learn to accept and deal with……. What seems to fall on deaf ears is that this is democratic, by a democratic voice and a democratic process and that my friends is the one positive we should take away from all of this, not doing so has consequences than non of us wish to happen.

Relyat wrote on Sun May 15, 2022 8:52pm:

Things are seldom that clear 

https://quotepark.com/quotes/1853205-david-davis-if-a-democracy-cannot-change-its-mind-it-ceases-t/

BeniSnowbird wrote on Sun May 15, 2022 8:42pm:

I actually hear what you are saying, but from a slightly different perspective.

I voted remain, and on balance it would ‘probably’ would have been better (at least in the short to medium term, who really knows what a decade holds) if we stayed on board, I don’t moan about the democratic decision and will adhere to the decision that was gained from the 2016 ballot (&...

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...; subsequent council/general election results) that reinforces the populations wish to exit the EU.

Brexit is far from perfect, far from answering all the questions and this state of affairs is not like to change anytime soon…. however, and this is important… as a nation a decision was made, a decision we will learn to accept and deal with……. What seems to fall on deaf ears is that this is democratic, by a democratic voice and a democratic process and that my friends is the one positive we should take away from all of this, not doing so has consequences than non of us wish to happen.

BeniSnowbird wrote on Sun May 15, 2022 9:23pm:

Capitalism without Socialism is Fascism 

Socialism without capitalism is Communism 

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Neither of which any sensible minded person would wish to entertain. Let’s give the system we invented a damn good chance or travel down either of the above paths, I think most of us know where we wish to walk.

Relyat wrote on Mon May 16, 2022 8:26am:

I agree, neither of the paths you describe are desirable. 

However, to the best of my knowledge, neither of your two opening sentences can be attributed to one of the main proponents of Brexit. 

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My point being.... Brexit was a change of mind from the original vote to join the common market. If one cannot contemplate a change of mind regarding the vote to leave the EU is it not hypocritical? 

Allank wrote on Mon May 16, 2022 8:41am:

More attempts to hijack a post about Petitions. I have made the point earlier that petitions, letters, moans or whatever are pointless if directed towards UK politicians. 

The UK Parliament's responsibility is for all UK citizens and not for that minority of us with second homes and we need to realise that there is neither political nor economical benefit to them....

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I discovered this today and wonder if anything has ever been directed to the EU petitions committee.

Interestingly it refers to "all European citizens" which of course includes UK. 

Could I respectfully ask for no more complaints on Brexit and to get this question back on track. I for one will ignore such drivel.

Relyat wrote on Mon May 16, 2022 9:03am:

Just a couple of points. 

I've not made any attempt to "hijack a thread", I've just answered a post by another contributor. 

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I'm sorry that you consider my post to be drivel. However, I won't be deleting it. 

Why did you delete your previous post? 

I wonder whether you found the sunlit uplands as you didn't let us know. 

Allank wrote on Mon May 16, 2022 8:41am:

More attempts to hijack a post about Petitions. I have made the point earlier that petitions, letters, moans or whatever are pointless if directed towards UK politicians. 

The UK Parliament's responsibility is for all UK citizens and not for that minority of us with second homes and we need to realise that there is neither political nor economical benefit to them....

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I discovered this today and wonder if anything has ever been directed to the EU petitions committee.

Interestingly it refers to "all European citizens" which of course includes UK. 

Could I respectfully ask for no more complaints on Brexit and to get this question back on track. I for one will ignore such drivel.

Kimmy11 wrote on Mon May 16, 2022 11:01am:

Hi Allank,

You ignored my earlier question, so I'll ask it again.  Have YOU found any Petitions to the EU or Spanish government?

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Regards,

Kim