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2nd /3rd year visa

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 1:51pm
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Gail0317

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Hi my husband and I were thinking of moving over next year (2023) however I've been reading about people not being granted a 2nd / 3rd year visa* despite having the required monies banked and the correct finances in place monthly)   and having to appeal or leave the country . Its sounding like this is becoming an issue . I would hate to buy a property then not be granted a continuing visa after the first year ..Has anyone else heard of this happening . Also that burglaries are on the rise and that Spain isn't as safe as it once was ..any views on either of these would be very much appreciated....thank you 

elinspain

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 2:14pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 2:14pm

Hello Gail

 It is year 2 & 4 when you have to prove your finances again & bear in mind that,  you are renewing for 2yrs on these occasions so you would need to have double the amount of year 1.

 Can you show where you have been reading this as I havent read any of that information.

 As for your 2nd question....Of course it depends where you live but crime & safety have  not  noticably changed in the 19 years I have lived here. No where is perfect but some places come  pretty close, so dont be put of by 'what you've heard/read' sometimes its an isolated incident that sparks the respose.

 Cheers

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Darro

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 2:51pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 2:51pm

This will be why income needs to be based on resilient and reliable ongoing sources, such as pensions etc, not just money in the bank.

If you can show that for year one then there should be no problems showing it again at years 2 and 4.

If you think about it if it were just money in the bank there would be nothing to stop people temporarily borrowing the required sums just to show on a bank statement and then immediately paying it back, the same could be done for years 2 and 4 making a complete mockery of the rules.

tebo53

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:15pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:15pm

Gail0317 wrote on Tue May 24, 2022 1:51pm:

Hi my husband and I were thinking of moving over next year (2023) however I've been reading about people not being granted a 2nd / 3rd year visa* despite having the required monies banked and the correct finances in place monthly)   and having to appeal or leave the country . Its soundi...

...ng like this is becoming an issue . I would hate to buy a property then not be granted a continuing visa after the first year ..Has anyone else heard of this happening . Also that burglaries are on the rise and that Spain isn't as safe as it once was ..any views on either of these would be very much appreciated....thank you 

I've lived here in Benidorm for 8 years and can't say I've noticed any increase in crime in this area. I feel much safer here day and night than I ever did in the UK. The major problem here in Benidorm is pickpockets but if you are careful it's not a problem. 

Steve 

Gail0317

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:12pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:12pm

elinspain wrote on Tue May 24, 2022 2:14pm:

Hello Gail

 It is year 2 & 4 when you have to prove your finances again & bear in mind that,  you are renewing for 2yrs on these occasions so you would need to have double the amount of year 1.

 Can you show where you have been reading this as I havent read any of that information.

 As for your 2nd question....Of course it depends where you live but crime & safety have  not  noticably changed in the 19 years I have lived here. No where is perfect but some places come  pretty close, so dont be put of by 'what you've heard/read' sometimes its an isolated incident that sparks the respose.

 Cheers

Elinspain

Hi yes..it was on either this forum or a quesada one I was reading last night  ...several people mentioned the crime issue..one person said they didn't know anyone who hadn't been burgled and a Canadian person talked about the visa issue there was thread about visa application and  quite a few people mentioned the issues with getting refused 2/3year visas despite having the correct funds in place ..some were lodging appeals . 

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Gail0317

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:17pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:17pm

Darro wrote on Tue May 24, 2022 2:51pm:

This will be why income needs to be based on resilient and reliable ongoing sources, such as pensions etc, not just money in the bank.

If you can show that for year one then there should be no problems showing it again at years 2 and 4.

If you think about it if it were just money in the bank there would be nothing to stop people temporarily borrowing the required sums just to show on a bank statement and then immediately paying it back, the same could be done for years 2 and 4 making a complete mockery of the rules.

I totally agree and to be fair I think Spain are doing the right thing . Infact I would imagine that these requirements have quite rightly  been in place all along . It only now that we've come out of the E.U that it affects us . I was more concerned about the 2/3 year visa refusals . 

Gail0317

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:31pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:31pm

Gail0317 wrote on Tue May 24, 2022 8:17pm:

I totally agree and to be fair I think Spain are doing the right thing . Infact I would imagine that these requirements have quite rightly  been in place all along . It only now that we've come out of the E.U that it affects us . I was more concerned about the 2/3 year visa refusals . 

Unfortunately it's looking like we wouldn't be able to apply for a visa anyway as we fall short of the required monthly income by €50 a month .

John123456

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:08pm

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:08pm

With regards to crime in Spain you might find the contents of this link interesting:

https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/lang/en/gobierno/news/Paginas/2022/20220221_crime-balance.aspx 

This link should provide you with all the necessary information about Spanish non-lucrative visas and renewals.

https://www.immigrationspain.es/en/visas-and-residence-permits-in-spain/ 

tebo53

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59am

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 7:59am

Gail0317 wrote on Tue May 24, 2022 8:12pm:

Hi yes..it was on either this forum or a quesada one I was reading last night  ...several people mentioned the crime issue..one person said they didn't know anyone who hadn't been burgled and a Canadian person talked about the visa issue there was thread about visa application and  quit...

...e a few people mentioned the issues with getting refused 2/3year visas despite having the correct funds in place ..some were lodging appeals . 

Gail,

You wrote....

"one person said they didn't know anyone who hadn't been burgled"

On the other hand.....I don't know anyone who has been burgled.....

They usually have bars on windows and doors here in Spain and if you live in an apartment block it's code entry. Safer her in Spain. 

Steve 

elinspain

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 8:38am

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 8:38am

tebo53 wrote on Wed May 25, 2022 7:59am:

Gail,

You wrote....

"one person said they didn't know anyone who hadn't been burgled"

On the other hand.....I don't know anyone who has been burgled.....

They usually have bars on windows and doors here in Spain and if you live in an apartment block it's code entry. Safer her in Spain. 

Steve 

Hello

 Absolutely agree with Steve, I don't know anyone, who, having taken the normal precautions, has been burgled in many years of living here....... carelessness does help  criminals ---anywhere in the world!

Cheers

Elinspain

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