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are we illegal

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:05pm
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mikelyn17karoocouk

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We came her for a two month stay on the 1st of Feb and are still in lockdown with no flights home to the UK we spoke to a couple who have an apartment here and they said we should have a registration document is this true and what is it and where would we get one if needed ?????

RayD

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:28pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:28pm

Under normal circumstances you would be illegal if you overstayed the 90 days in Spain, but the government gave a waiver to those who were stuck here.

In an addendum to DR 463/2020 on 31st March

2. The expiration periods of stays in national territory will be suspended for third-country nationals whose return is not possible as a consequence of the coronavirus-derived health emergency, and thus be proven

So, don't worry about it.

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:54pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:54pm

I see it’s your first post - welcome. There’s a wealth of really good information on here; some really knowledgeable guys (M/F) who between them can probably answer any future questions. There is a search function you might want to have a look at to aid your search. To cover all areas just put “all areas” in the appropriate box. 

Enjoy! 🤪🥂

Movingon

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 7:14pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 7:14pm

Didn't know we were already 3rd country nationals! 

Not having a pop or being judgemental but the fact is that anyone who was here as a tourist when the lockdown was imposed should have been offered a rescue flight home or if here by car has been able to drive back at any time so unless there are extenuating circumstances anybody 'stuck' is so by choice.

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 7:38pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 7:38pm

Movingon wrote on Sun May 17, 2020 7:14pm:

Didn't know we were already 3rd country nationals! 

Not having a pop or being judgemental but the fact is that anyone who was here as a tourist when the lockdown was imposed should have been offered a rescue flight home or if here by car has been able to drive back at any time so unless there are extenuating circumstances anybody 'stuck' is so by ...

...choice.

Hi Movingon

I’ve seen many posts, here and on other websites in Spain. asking for advice on returning “home” to the U.K. I can only suppose people misjudged the severity of the situation. I was repatriated (not from Spain) but I must admit, I considered sticking it out. My insurers made it clear I would not be covered it I didn’t take the opportunity to return home. Decision made 🤪🥂

Peter3473

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:10pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:10pm

I have been here since 28th February as a non resident tax payer and homeowner, the reason I came over was to organise residency for myself and my wife as we had decided to make Spain our permanent home, with all the necessary paperwork, finances to hand I contacted Uma @ get legal in Spain, explaining my wife would be joining me on the 16th March, we had our meet and waited for the week of the 16th to proceed!! Unfortunately the state of alarm came in to play the day my wife had returned to Spain, not knowing how long the lockdown would last and having our return flights cancelled on the 30th March with no refund, we decided to stay put and stick to the rules and wait and see what would happen? Well yes we have looked at trying to return to the UK re flights, but to no avail, also in the back of our minds, what’s happening back there in the UK!!! We have always felt safe here in Spain during this time, so is/was there repatriation flights? As yes we are worried about over staying and affecting our future residency. 

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:58pm

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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:58pm

Peter3473 wrote on Sun May 17, 2020 9:10pm:

I have been here since 28th February as a non resident tax payer and homeowner, the reason I came over was to organise residency for myself and my wife as we had decided to make Spain our permanent home, with all the necessary paperwork, finances to hand I contacted Uma @ get legal in Spain, expl...

...aining my wife would be joining me on the 16th March, we had our meet and waited for the week of the 16th to proceed!! Unfortunately the state of alarm came in to play the day my wife had returned to Spain, not knowing how long the lockdown would last and having our return flights cancelled on the 30th March with no refund, we decided to stay put and stick to the rules and wait and see what would happen? Well yes we have looked at trying to return to the UK re flights, but to no avail, also in the back of our minds, what’s happening back there in the UK!!! We have always felt safe here in Spain during this time, so is/was there repatriation flights? As yes we are worried about over staying and affecting our future residency. 

If you are trying to organise residency and have not been able to do so as there aren't any appointments, I wouldn't worry. 

You are in the same position as anyone waiting for a residency appointment, coronavirus or not. Brexit or not, you are still an EU citizen until 31st December.

AMK

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:08am

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:08am

Movingon wrote on Sun May 17, 2020 7:14pm:

Didn't know we were already 3rd country nationals! 

Not having a pop or being judgemental but the fact is that anyone who was here as a tourist when the lockdown was imposed should have been offered a rescue flight home or if here by car has been able to drive back at any time so unless there are extenuating circumstances anybody 'stuck' is so by ...

...choice.

Yes, there are always extenuating circumstances.

The routine return flight we had booked was cancelled at short notice, as was the replacement one and the one after that.

The Embassy advised of repatriation flights available from Barcelona.

However we have a 90 year old relative with us and on checking, with hold-overs at each airport, the journey from Alicante to LGW or a European hub, back to Glasgow was in the region of 30+ hours, which obviously would have been exhausting and carried its own increased exposure risks.

Incidentally the elderly relative felt and feels much safer with the tougher lockdown here, than with the indecisive U.K. arrangements.

paulsav

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:54am

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 10:54am

Movingon wrote on Sun May 17, 2020 7:14pm:

Didn't know we were already 3rd country nationals! 

Not having a pop or being judgemental but the fact is that anyone who was here as a tourist when the lockdown was imposed should have been offered a rescue flight home or if here by car has been able to drive back at any time so unless there are extenuating circumstances anybody 'stuck' is so by ...

...choice.

We came by Santander ferry 2 days before lockdown, return booking June 8th now cancelled. My husband of 76 will not travel through France(too far to drive) and fact we were robbed 1 and only time we did many years ago. I dont consider it a choice we are staying, we just need a ferry service from Brittany to get us back, so we too will extend over 90 days. As thousands have been and still are illegally living in Spain to avoid tax paying, I dont think in these corcumstances we forced extended illegals have much to worry about. 

Regards

Pauline.

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:00pm

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Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:00pm

I have had many dealings with the embassy etc over the last few weeks and a concentrated focus over the last 72 hours. 

Let us be very clear about one thing. Travelling back to the country for which you hold a passport is not blocked by any government in any country. What you will find is that there are very few options open for you to return to the UK, as an example.

What you should further note is that if you intend to drive through France you MUST go online and complete the necessary documentation.

There was a previous post that a forum member kindly took the time to describe their experience and it is fair to say they were treated with courtesy. (Honest, even from the French!!)

I hope that helps

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