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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:50am
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alan brummie

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Hi Folks  -  I have owned a villa in Moraira for over 35 years ,and visited from Bournemouth, where I am a resident , several times a year as and when it suited me or when flight fares were particularly cheap.    So I was a regular visitor spending cash in restaurants, shops and with builders etc to support the local Spanish  community.

Up until now I have always been welcomed and it was a practice benefitting both parties

NOW, I wish to continue this , BUT I am restricted to 90 days or whatever by the complicated and time wasting "SCHENEGEN"  arrangement !!

I can't see the purpose behind this stupid arrangement since apart from controlling my movements,  it reduces the contribution I can make to the Moraira market place?Can some enlightened person explain to me what purpose is achieved  by " Schengen "  ?? Or is it simply spite as I supported the UK decision to leave the likely bankrupt European Union  ??

Relyat

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:54am

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 10:54am

Not spite, but certainly Schadenfreude. 

Presumably you knew what you were voting for. 

GordonH605

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:20am

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:20am

It's spite, the same reason as Covid travel restrictions applied to Brits which continue even now if you're unvaccinated.  EU citizens could travel freely throughout, so clearly there was no science-based reason for it.

alan brummie

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:45am

alan brummie

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:45am

GordonH605 wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:20am:

It's spite, the same reason as Covid travel restrictions applied to Brits which continue even now if you're unvaccinated.  EU citizens could travel freely throughout, so clearly there was no science-based reason for it.

Thank you Gordon  in confirming my view that it was "spite"  But I doubt if it will ever change

 What a dreadful way to foster good relations and run a  European Community by shooting yourself in the foot   !!  I most certainly did know what I was voting for  -  to get out of this financially uncontrolled Union , which year on year failed to balance their books, and continued to pay itself  exorbitant  State pensions (compared to the UK ), which it  then expected the UK to be a prime financial contributor .

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:48am

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:48am

At least you can be secure in the knowledge that it was you who shot yourself in the foot then. 

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alan brummie

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:03pm

alan brummie

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:03pm

Relyat wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:48am:

At least you can be secure in the knowledge that it was you who shot yourself in the foot then. 

You might well  be right but it will heal and be much stronger instead of being in leg irons for a lifetime to an unelected overpaid  Group of  self seeking  Non Entities.     So it is  a case of God Save The King , rather than Vivre La France . etc 

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:13pm

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 1:13pm

You are probably still welcome, but were never allowed to stay more than 90 days in a row. Now it's the 90/180 day rule for non EU residents, and that is the way it has always been. That's what the Brits voted for when they joined the union, so nothing has changed. 

P.S. I still don't believe anyone knew what they were voting for in the referendum. If you did, I don't understand why you are complaining. 

GordonH605

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:38pm

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:38pm

alan brummie wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:45am:

Thank you Gordon  in confirming my view that it was "spite"  But I doubt if it will ever change

 What a dreadful way to foster good relations and run a  European Community by shooting yourself in the foot   !!  I most certainly did know what I was voting for  -  to get out of this financially uncontrolled Union , which year on year failed to balance their ...

...books, and continued to pay itself  exorbitant  State pensions (compared to the UK ), which it  then expected the UK to be a prime financial contributor .

You forgot to mention the EU's total failure to respond in any meaningful way to the situation in Ukraine.

Darro

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:43pm

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:43pm

alan brummie wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2022 11:45am:

Thank you Gordon  in confirming my view that it was "spite"  But I doubt if it will ever change

 What a dreadful way to foster good relations and run a  European Community by shooting yourself in the foot   !!  I most certainly did know what I was voting for  -  to get out of this financially uncontrolled Union , which year on year failed to balance their ...

...books, and continued to pay itself  exorbitant  State pensions (compared to the UK ), which it  then expected the UK to be a prime financial contributor .

Despite you protestations it's evident from your own words that you did NOT know what you were voting for.

Yes you may have latched onto a few items which irked you personally and influenced your vote to leave but in doing so you spectacularly failed to appreciate the big picture and are now paying the price.

Schadenfreude indeed then and moaning about it here will garner you very little sympathy, certainly none from me, as ye sow so shall ye reap.

To enlighten your befuddled mind in simple words Schengen is broadly the equivalent of the UK's Border Force and performs the same function in policing and controlling who enters their territory.

elinspain

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:11pm

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Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2022 3:11pm

Hello

 One of the things you voted for with your decision, was the loss of Freedom of Movement within  the EU ---- hence the restrictions you are now subject  to.

 When you (UK) chose to leave the club (EU).... you lost the benefits  of being a member too. (Freedom of EU travel)

Cheers

Elinspain

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