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Best heating type?

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:50am
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Marlovians

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Hello,

We're renting here for a few months now, but looking ahead to when we buy a place - hopefully next year - we would appreciate any advice on the best type of heating to find - or install - in a villa for the winters. I really feel the cold and like to be warm at home, without having to wear several thick jumpers! The ideal would be reasonable running costs, not hot air (which I find noisy, dries the air and as soon as it's switched off, the room feels freezing). Is there a good, economical way of heating the house, maybe to include some background heating, so it's not so extreme, either warm or freezing? 

Thanks!

Willy

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:59am

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:59am

Hi depends on what you buy and where, personally I can't stand the cold so we have a log burner and also have central heating if its not too cold you can just flick heating on when it gets a bit nippy we have the log burner on in an evening and let it burn out overnight then just flick heating on as and when needed or if really cold on a constant temperature.

I am sure you will find the best option that suits you.

Cheryl

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 11:35am

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 11:35am

Marlovians wrote on Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:50am:

Hello,

We're renting here for a few months now, but looking ahead to when we buy a place - hopefully next year - we would appreciate any advice on the best type of heating to find - or install - in a villa for the winters. I really feel the cold and like to be warm at home, without having to wear several thick jumpers! The ideal would be reasonable running costs, not hot air (which I find noisy, dries the air and as soon as it's switched off, the room feels freezing). Is there a good, economical way of heating the house, maybe to include some background heating, so it's not so extreme, either warm or freezing? 

Thanks!

Much will depend on the villa itself and how much insulation is in the walls and roof because it does get cold here and today was the first time I didn´t sit on my outside terrace at 7.30 am and I will start closing windows a bit at night from now on unless it warms up again. We have just installed central heating with a combi boiler run on bottled gas as no mains gas where we are and we have chosen to run it off a bank of 10 small bottles. If it becomes cheaper in future to get a larger gas container, we have that option. My personal preference will always be a full central heating system to keep the whole house warm, not just pockets, and we have large heated towel rails for the bathrooms as freezing cold, fully tiled bathrooms are a misery.
We also have an old wood burner which is now looking for a new home because I never liked my parents old Parkray when I was a child because of the dust and work it created and many will disagree, but I don´t see much difference, you still have to get rid of the ash, clear up the mess and store the fuel somewhere dry whereas I can control individual radiators, set timers and over-ride them when necessary. One thing to note though is that unless you are prepared to have floors dug up for the pipework, everything would have to be surface mounted.

All the best for your new venture.

It´s difficult, but you will absolutely need heating as most properties are built to keep the sun out, not to keep heat in

Stephanie86

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 12:02pm

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 12:02pm

What you may also like to consider is buying the extremely efficient thermostatic and timed Norwegian electric heaters. They aren’t the same as the old oil filled panel rads and are easy to fit, all you need is an electric socket. They are not expensive to run. 

We have hydronic underfloor heating, downstairs, but we put the heater in the bedroom as it’s freezing up there and it has solved the problem.

Sorry, no longer have the web link, but I think the firm is based in Moraira, if you do a search you should find them.

Andrew65

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:12pm

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:12pm

Try the Blyss glass panel heaters on Screwfix.eu, free delivery over 70eu, all electric heaters have similar efficiency as they have no flue loss www.screwfix.eu/white-glass-panel-heater-2000w.html

RayD

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:52pm

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:52pm

We have a similar gas fired central heating system as Cheryl, with two banks of five gas bottles in a caseta outside. When one bank runs out you switch over to the second and then order five more.

We had the pipes fitted under the floor as the villa floor is about 60cm above ground with a void underneath. The fitters went into the void and fed the pipes up through the floor.

When it's just a chilly evening, we also have a portable gas heater which works quite well, although we do keep a window open for ventilation.

Andrew65

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Tue Oct 9, 2018 10:17pm

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Posted: Tue Oct 9, 2018 10:17pm

The most efficient form of heating is to use your air-conditioning in heat mode, for every Kw if energy put in you get 3Kw in return as heat is recovered from the outside air. 

Alice2

Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:28pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:28pm

RayD wrote on Tue Oct 9, 2018 9:52pm:

We have a similar gas fired central heating system as Cheryl, with two banks of five gas bottles in a caseta outside. When one bank runs out you switch over to the second and then order five more.

We had the pipes fitted under the floor as the villa floor is about 60cm above ground with a void underneath. The fitters went into the void and fed the pipes up through the floor.

When it's just a chilly evening, we also have a portable gas heater which works quite well, although we do keep a window open for ventilation.

Hi Ray

Just out of interest. How long do you have your radiators on and how long do the five bottles last.

RayD

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Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:26pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:26pm

We've got 4 bedrooms, not all of them used, and 7 radiators plus 3 bathroom towel rails on the system. We turn down the radiators in the unused rooms and set the living area to 23 degrees.

The heating comes on for 2 hours in the morning, before we get up, and 5 hours in the evening. We've got a combi boiler and the hot water is on tap all year round.

One bank of 5 bottles of gas usually lasts between 10 and 14 days, depending on how cold it is and costs about 55-60 € delivered. These are the usual 11Kg bottles.

Stephanie86

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Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:15pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 11:15pm

That seems to me to be terrifically expensive compared to the cost of running our hydronic underfloor heating powered by an external heat exchanger. Our house is completely electric, heating, cooking, hot water also run by separate outside heat pump, avaialable 24/7. Last year when running heating bill for everything, bearing in mind don’t buy gas, was around 130 eu for a month; large open plan two storey 2 x bed house, 2 x bathrooms, huge kitchen and large sitting room. Just perhaps makes me glad I don’t have to bother with gas!!! And proves heat exchangers efficient!!

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