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Jim's Guide - The NIE - Part 2 - Practice

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COMPLETING THE EX-15

You must use black ink and capital letters.

Search the web and you'll find a lot of examples in English about what the various fields on the form are, and how they should be completed. Two good examples are:

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/EDIMBURGO/en/Consulado/Documents/Guide%20to%20fill%20EX-15%20form.jpg

http://ankaravisa.es/archivos/EX-15%20%28Instrucciones%20en%20ingl%C3%A9s%29.pdf

There is no need to complete the boxes on page three of the four page form.

Rather than create my own version of the above examples, I'm simply listing what goes in each field:

Note that the sequence of some of these fields, and their descriptions, varies between the two types of EX-15. I'll show both descriptions where appropriate. There are also additional fields on the 4-page form.

1) DATOS DEL SOLICITANTE/DATOS DEL EXTRANJERO/A

This section is about you, the applicant.

N.I.E. - leave blank (unless you're using the form to request a certificate of non-residence).

Nº PASAPORTE - enter your passport number.

1er Apellido - enter your surname.

2º Apellido - leave blank, or put a long dash in it, unless you've got two surnames.

Nombre - enter your Christian name(s).

Sexo - mark as appropriate - H for male (hombre), M for female (mujer). Don't make the mistake a friend made - he thought M was masculino (male) and H was hembra (female), so he put himself down as M. It apparently caused a bit of levity at Orihuela police station!

Fecha de nacimiento - enter your date of birth in the format dd/mm/yyyy.

Lugar - enter the name of the town where you were born.

País - enter the name of the country where you were born - INGLATERRA (England), ESCOCIA (Scotland), PAÍS DE GALES (Wales), IRLANDA DEL NORTE (Northern Ireland).

Nombre del padre - enter your father's Christian name(s).

Nombre de la madre - enter your mother's Christian name(s).

Nacionalidad - enter your nationality - BRITÁNICO for a man, BRITÁNICA for a woman.

Estado civil - mark to indicate if single (S), married (C), widowed (V), divorced (D), separated (Sp).

Domicilio en España/Domicilio de residencia - you could if you wished enter someone else's Spanish address here, but it makes much more sense to use your address in the UK if you haven't got your own address in Spain. Just enter your street name, and suburb etc if appropriate.

- enter your house number.

Piso - enter your flat number if appropriate; otherwise leave blank.

Localidad - enter the name of the town relating to your address.

C.P. - enter your post code.

Provincia - enter the name of your county.

Teléfono/Teléfono móvil - enter your telephone number. Unless it's a Spanish number, prefix it with 0044.

E-mail - enter your email address.

Representante legal, en su caso - leave blank unless you've appointed someone to apply for the NIE for you, in which case you enter that person's name.

NIE/PAS/NIF or DNI/NIE/PAS - if the representative is a Spaniard, enter one of their ID numbers. PAS, I think, is the number which appears on a Spanish power of attorney.

Título - enter the basis on which a representative is acting, for example Padre/Madre del menor (if acting on behalf of a child), or Poder Notarial (if you've granted someone a POA to do the application for you).

2) DATOS DEL PRESENTADOR DE LA SOLICITUD(5)/DATOS DEL REPRESENTANTE A EFECTOS DE PRESENTACIÓN DE LA SOLICITUDP

This section can be left blank unless you've appointed a representative or are acting on behalf of a child. In such cases this section has to be completed. The only field that is different from those described above is the one for Nombre/Razón Social - where, if applicable, Razón Social asks for the name of the company to whom you've granted POA.

3) DOMICILIO A EFECTOS DE NOTIFICACIONES

This section asks for details about where any notifications should be sent. The only notification you're ever likely to receive is to tell you that your NIE is ready for collection. However, you should still complete it. All the fields have already been described above, so I don't need to describe what to fill in - with one exception:

If using the two-page form, there's a final section for:

Solicito/Consiento que las comunicaciones y notificaciones se realicen por medios electrónicos

Simply put an x in the box beside this to confirm that you agree to receive notifications by e-mail.

If using the four-page form, the final section is for:

NO CONSIENTO que las comunicaciones y notificaciones se realicen por medios electrónicos.

Marking this box would be stating that you don't want to receive notifications by e-mail, so just leave it blank.

On the 4-page form, at each new page there's a field for Nombre y apellidos del titular - just enter your full name.

4) DATOS RELATIVOS A LA SOLICITUD

4.1. TIPO DE DOCUMENTO (art. 206)

This section asks what you are applying for.

Put a blob or a cross beside NÚMERO DE IDENTIDAD DE EXTRANJERO (NIE).

If you're applying for a non-resident certificate, put a blob or a cross in both CERTIFICADO and De no residente.

4.2. Motivos

This section asks why you are applying for an NIE.

Put a blob or a cross by the relevant item; I've not been able to find definitions for the three classes of reason, so I'm just using my own logic:

Por intereses económicos - This is the box you are most likely to use; opening a bank account, house purchase, paying tax, taking out a mortgage, etc, are all economic reasons. Some people might disagree, and select social reasons when intending to buy a house. I know people who have done this, and their application has been accepted without query, so perhaps it doesn't matter too much which you select. However, I have a letter from the Ministry of the Interior which clearly states that this option is applicable to:

2. If it is for ECONOMIC reasons, it will be indicated:

2.1. If it is to open a bank account or any other matter related to banks: The exact reason must be specified, as well as the bank with which it is related and the address of the bank office.

2.2. If it is for acts that imply repercussions with the tax administration (tax management, taxes, rates, ordinary and special contributions, etc.,) it will be specified: The specific act which gives rise to the request, (sale, donation or disposal of goods; acts of succession or inheritance, or any other legal transaction, etc.)

Por intereses profesionales - If it is for work reasons.

Por intereses sociales - This is definitely vague, but it's the option that my wife's daughter selected. This was because she wanted to visit her ageing mum as often as she could afford, and this clearly fits in the social category. The reason she wanted an NIE was to make it easier when she came to open a bank account. The letter from the Ministry of the Interior referred to above states that:

If it is for SOCIAL reasons, the social act in question will be detailed, as well as the public or private entity with which this relationship is maintained.

(especificar) - This is where you give a brief description of why you want the NIE. The following are some examples:

·  ABRIR UNA CUENTA BANCARIA - open a bank account.

·  COMPRA DE UN INMUEBLE (OR COCHE) - purchase a property (or car).

·  CONTRATO DE TRABAJO - taking up a job.

·  HERENCIA - inheritance (you'll need an NIE if you inherit assets in Spain).

·  HIPOTECA - mortgage.

·  PAGAR DE IMPUESTOS - paying taxes.

4.3. Lugar de presentación

All you do here is select the type of office at which you are going to submit the application.

4.4. Situación en España

If doing the application in Spain, select Estancia (stay) if you're just going to be a visitor, or Residencia if you're about to take up residence here. If doing it at a consulate, this is only permitted if you aren't going to take up residence or work in Spain, so you don't really need to select Estancia - it's assumed by default.

If using the two-page form, there's then a section for:

CONSIENTO la comprobación de mis datos de identidad a través de los Sistemas de Verificación de Datos de Identidad (en caso contrario, deberán aportarse los documentos correspondientes)

Simply put an x in the box beside this to state that you agree to them confirming your identity electronically.

If using the four-page form, the section is for:

NO CONSIENTO la consulta sobre mis datos y documentos que se hallen en poder de la Administración (en este caso, deberán aportarse los documentos correspondientes)

Marking this box would be stating that you don't agree to them confirming your identity electronically, so leave it alone.

If you don't agree to them checking your identity electronically, you'll just be creating problems for yourself, as they would then ask for other documentation.

You then come to the place and date fields.

The first field is where you stipulate a place, and I suggest you use the name of the town where you are making the application.

The second is for the numeric day of the month.

The third is the month (remember that this needs to be in Spanish, and that it isn't capitalised).

The last is for the year.

For example, the final result could be:

Orihuela, a 15 de julio de 2020

FIRMA DEL SOLICITANTE (o representante legal, en su caso)

This is where you or your appointed representative signs the form. Remember that if it is done at a consulate, you shouldn't sign the form until you're with the consular official.

DIRIGIDA A

This is where you enter the name of the place where you are submitting the application, for example Dirección General de la Policia; and PROVINCIA is the name of the province in which that is situated, for example Alicante.

The 4-page form also has a field for Código DIR3, which is an alpha-numeric identification for the office at which you are applying. Leave it blank, and let the person handling your application fill it in.

The 4-page form also has an Annex 1 and Annex 2. The majority of applicants can leave these blank. They are only used if the applicant is applying for an NIE because of some official administrative procedure which has required an NIE to be issued. In such rare cases, the applicant can just detail the documents in the annexes, and doesn't have to produce hard copies in support of their application.

You've now completed the application form and can print out two copies or, if you filled it in by hand, take a photocopy. In fact, as you'll be handing over two copies, I suggest you also create a third copy for retention by yourself.

THE PAYMENT FORM - MODELO 790

The fee at the time of writing is €9.64.

If you're applying at a consulate, you still need the Modelo 790, but you can pay the fee at the consulate, and the consulate will supply the payment form.

If you go to a national police station or foreigner's office without having pre-paid the fee, they might (but might not!) provide you with the payment form, which you then have to complete, take to a bank and pay the fee, and then go back and try again. It's just not worth the hassle - pre-pay the fee in advance and take the receipted 790 with the rest of the application paperwork.

There are actually two versions of the 790 relevant to an NIE. These are 790 Tasa 052 and 790 Código 012 (there's also a Modelo 790 Código 062, which is used if an employer applies for an NIE for an employee).

790 Tasa 052 originally had to be used if you were applying to an Oficina de Extranjería foreigner's office. This was in spite of the fact that, as far back as 2016, the government website said - and still says - that the Código 012 had to be used wherever you went. Until some time in 2019, there is no doubt that the foreigners offices required the Tasa 052, but I have since received two reports that they now require the Código 012. I have some doubts about those reports, and think the applicants may have confused the two types of foreigners offices. This is another reason why I recommend against applying at an Oficina de Extranjería foreigner's office. If you still wish to do so, check with them regarding the version of the payment form to be used.

790 Código 012 is to be used if you are applying to a national police station or consulate.

Make sure you use the correct one!

790 Tasa 052:

1). You can only do this online if you have an electronic certificate. If you do, this is the starting point:

https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/pagina/index/directorio/tasa052

Click on 'Acceder a Pagar y enviar la liquidación de la tasa 052 a través de Internet'.

Click OK on the pop-up.

Select your electronic certificate and click OK.

On the next page, click your province on the map, and click OK on the pop-up.

Click the box at the right of 6.5.

The amount of the fee appears in the 'INGRESO' section at the bottom.

Enter the full IBAN number for your bank account, then click on 'REALIZAR PAGO'.

(You can also pay by credit or debit card).

Make sure you print two copies of the receipted 790.

2). If you haven't got an electronic certificate, you're stuffed by an example of utter bureaucratic stupidity.

One of the options on the form is to pay for an NIE.

However, there's a mandatory field in which you have to enter your NIE number!

You can't use passport or NI number.

You can't ask to view the form so you can print it and fill it out, as it just throws up an error message.

You can't download a blank form.

(Just in case the system changes, go to the same link as in the previous section, but this time click on 'Acceder a Rellenar e imprimir el formulario de liquidación de la Tasa 052'.)

The only way then is to go to a foreigner's office and ask for a hard copy of the form.

You then complete the form and take an extra two copies, pay at a bank, and take two receipted copies along to the foreigner's office.

Conclusion - don't solicit an NIE at a foreigner's office if you haven't got an electronic certificate.

790 Código 012:

If you're applying at the Edinburgh consulate, their website gives the following link:

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/EDIMBURGO/en/Consulado/Documents/Model%20790.pdf

This is a poor copy of the paper version of the form. By all means use it if you wish, but I don't personally see the point when you can fill it in online.

Go to:

https://sede.policia.gob.es:38089/Tasa790_012/ImpresoRellenar

In the N.I.F./N.I.E. field, enter 'Pasaporte' plus your passport number.

In the 'Apellidos y nombre o razón social' field, put your surname, a comma, then your first name(s).

In the 'Tipo de vía' field, put what type of road you live on - street, avenue, close, calle, etc etc.

In the 'Nombre de la vía pública' field, put the name of the road you live on, less what you've done above

In the 'Núm' field, put your house number or apartment block number,

If you live in a flat, put your flat number in the 'Piso' field.

The 'Teléfono' field isn't mandatory, but if you don't enter your telephone number, you'll later be recommended to do so.

In the 'Municipio' field, enter the name of the town where you live - you can enter more than one word, for example Aiskew, Bedale.

In the 'Provincia' field, enter the name of the county where you live.

In the 'Código Postal' field, enter your post code.

Scroll down to the 'Documentos de identidad...' section, and you'll see a line for 'Asignación de Número de Identidad de Extranjero (NIE) a instancia del interesado'. Click on the button to the side of it to select this. As you do this, you'll see a little pop-up showing you the fee, and that fee then appears at the bottom of the form.

In 'Localidad', enter the name of your home town.

Under 'INGRESO' you need to select one of two options.

'En efectivo' means that you are going to pay in cash.

'EC Adeudo en cuenta' means you want payment to be from your bank account, in which case you need to enter the full IBAN for your bank account in the 'Código IBAN de la cuenta' field.

The most difficult part of the form is filling in the CAPTCHA field, as some of the characters shown aren't always very clear. However, it doesn't matter if it takes you a few goes to get it correct, as it lets you try several times without wiping out what you've already done.

Then click on 'Descargar impreso rellenado'.

This doesn't actually do a download, but instead opens a PDF of the completed form.

Right-click on this to save it, or just print it without saving.

You don't need to print the last page.

The first two pages show the full details, whereas the third page, which will be retained by the bank where you pay, omits the body of the form.

Having printed it out, you then need to sign the three pages in the bottom left box where it asks for Firma.

Take these to a Spanish bank, presenting all three pages, and they'll give you the first two pages back with their receipt on it. If you're applying at a consulate, you can pay when you go for your appointment.

APPOINTMENTS

A prior appointment is necessary. Ensure you do this in the name of the person applying. It used to be the case that solicitors, gestors etc, would make block bookings in the hope they'd be able to fill those slots. When they didn't, they simply didn't turn up, which wasted police time, so many police stations are now insisting that appointments be in the name of the applicant. That obviously stops anyone from booking slots in advance.

If there are two or more of you, you need to make a separate appointment for each person.

Consulate General in London:

The consulates seem to have the habit of regularly changing the appointments system, so if you find any of the following links are broken, go to the consulate home page, hover over Consulate at the top left, and then click on Appointments.

Start here:

https://citaconsular.maec.gob.es/citaprevia/

Click the down arrow on the 'Trámite' line and select 'LEGALIZACIONES / NIE / NIF (1) persona(s)', then click on 'Continuar'.

Enter your email address in the 'Correo' field, answer the Captcha, then click on 'Continuar'.

A verification code is then sent to your email address, and you need to copy that into the 'Code' field, then click on 'Continuar'.

A calendar then appears, and you can use the left/right arrows to scroll through the months.

Having clicked on the day you want, click on the time you want.

Enter the details requested, put a tick in the 'Declaro...' box, and click 'Confirmar'.

That makes the appointment, but remember to click the printer icon and print a copy.

Consulate General in Edinburgh:

Go to the following and click on the NIE text:

https://app.bookitit.com/es/hosteds/widgetdefault/2485d9866900c6670987896d6eaba840c#services

Select a date and time.

Fill in your details and click the 'Declaro...' box.

Click 'Confirmar'.

Make sure you print a copy of the appointment.

In Spain:

The online appointments system worked well for a good number of years and, in Alicante province as an example, you could select an appointment at any of six different police stations. Then along came Brexit; all the illegals came creeping out of the woodwork; and the system was totally overloaded. The result was that either appointments weren't available at all, or were only available at one or two locations, and that is still the case at the time of writing.

However, even when it was working, the online system didn't offer appointments at, for examples, Orihuela, Playa Flamenca & Torrevieja. Those offices did however issue NIEs so, if you can't make an appointment online for a convenient location, I suggest you go to your nearest national police station and ask for an NIE appointment and see how they respond.

If you want to try the online system and see what it offers, start here:

http://www.consultorga.com/data/seccion1/C-NIE.pdf

Click on:

https://sede.administracionespublicas.gob.es/icpplus/

The website can sometimes be a bit creaky, so don't be surprised if you have to load it several times, or try at different times of the day.

In the 'Seleccionar' box, click the drop-down arrow and select your province, then click 'Aceptar'.

Click the drop-down arrow in the blue box by 'TRÁMITES DISPONIBLES PARA LA PROVINCIA SELECCIONADA' and select 'POLICIA-ASIGNACIÓN DE NIE', then click 'Aceptar'.

Scroll down and click the red 'Entrar' box.

Select 'PASAPORTE' and enter your passport number.

Enter your full name and year of birth.

In the box by 'País de nacionalidad' click the drop-down arrow and select 'REINO UNIDO'.

Click the white box by 'No soy un robot' and wait a few seconds until it shows a green tick.

Click 'Aceptar'.

On the next page click 'Solicitar Cita'.

If you get the message 'En este momento no hay citas disponibles', it means there aren't any appointments available.

Click the drop-down arrow in the blue box and select the national police office where you want the appointment, then click on 'Siguiente'.

Enter your telephone number, then enter your email address in the other two boxes. This will be used to send you confirmation of the appointment if you want this. You may be warned that there is a problem with hotmail addresses. Then click on 'Siguiente'.

You are then shown up to three available appointments. Select the one you want, then click on 'Siguiente'.

In the pop-up box, click 'OK'.

Put a tick in the box beside 'Estoy conforme...' and, if you want to receive email confirmation, tick the box beside 'Deseo recibir...'.

To finalise the appointment, click on 'Confirmar'.

Make sure you print a copy.

DOING THE DEED

This is the easiest part of the job - provided you've got all the correct paperwork!

I recommend that you take someone with you who speaks a bit of Spanish (unless you're going to a consulate).

You will probably be going somewhere you've not been before, so allow plenty of time to find it and to find parking. For example, parking near Elche police station can be difficult, whereas at Orihuela it's easy to park at the Ociopia shopping centre and walk over the bridge.

What happens when you get to your chosen location depends on where you're going, but make sure you've got your appointment on top of the pile of papers you're clutching.

You may or may not need to see someone on reception, or use a machine to register your presence, and you may or may not need to take a turno (deli ticket).

When it's your turn, just smile nicely, apologise for your poor Spanish, and pass the pile of papers across the desk - you'll have time to bite your finger-nails while you're waiting!

All being well, if you're applying in Spain, you may be given an NIE on the spot (unlikely), or you may be given a resguardo (receipt). You may at this point be told when you can return and collect your NIE, or you may be told that you'll be notified when it's available for collection. In the case of applying at a consulate, they will almost certainly send your NIE by email.

Once you've got your NIE or resguardo, I suggest you find the nearest bar and treat yourself to a large brandy.

The time taken for your NIE to be available varies a lot - from immediate to several weeks - but should in theory take no more than five days.

You don't necessarily have to collect it yourself. It can be collected by anyone who has the receipt.

With reference to applying at a consulate in the UK, the following quotes may be useful (thanks Lancelot):

Went to the London consulate today - for those who do the same in the future be aware that you won't be invited into the consulate until your time slot is called. The Guardia Civil comes out onto the steps and says they are now calling <appointment time> in Spanish. My Spanish is not great and chatting to others in the queue it became apparent that we should just wait. There is a walkthrough metal detector as you enter - I was glad I'd left my little swiss army pen knife at home. There doesn't appear to be any ramps for wheel chairs so if you are a user I would suggest calling ahead or looking at the website.

Once inside you report to a clerk in the main ground floor area, they check you off of the list. Then upto second floor, there is a lift if you need one, into an office when called. Your printed papers which you take with you are stamped and signed by you. Down to the first floor for payment to be made. NIE's to be issued within 3 weeks from Madrid.

Everyone in there seemed really helpful.

You no longer need to take a stamped addressed envelope as NIE's are sent via email.

It's quite easy if you do decide to go to the UK consulate - I went to the London one after booking the appointments online as per the links above. One of the benefits is that they have a cashiers desk there and that's where you make your payment. Might be easier for you? I speak no Spanish but Jim's guides were very helpful in completing the forms. Numbers are emailed through to you about 3-4 weeks later from Madrid. 

REPLACING AN NIE

If you have residency, then the NIE becomes irrelevant, and you just need to ensure you have a residency certificate or residencia card available.

There are cases where you might wish to obtain a replacement NIE certificate. For examples, you have lost it; it has deteriorated to the point of being illegible; or your name has changed, usually due to marriage or divorce.

There isn't any defined official procedure for obtaining a replacement, so you're effectively in the hands of the office at which you apply, but I've not heard any report of anyone being refused.

What you need to do is to go to a national police station and ask for a copy - duplicado. They will require payment of the fee for obtaining an NIE, so it's best to make this payment first and take the receipt with you. Hopefully, they won't require you to have first made a denuncia to the Guardia Civil regarding the loss but, as it's an undocumented procedure, anything can happen.

If possible, make a prior appointment, but this may not be essential - it depends on the office to which you go. Again, whether or not the office requires an EX-15 application form, with your NIE number filled in if you know it, depends on the individual police station.

Take your passport and a copy and, if you don't know your NIE number, they should be able to find you in their records from just your name. If you've renewed your passport since you originally applied for an NIE, it might help to take the cancelled passport as well.

If your surname changes due to marriage or divorce, you must re-apply, presenting your new passport or identity document with your application, and possibly also your marriage certificate or other reason for the change of name. Whether or not an authorised translation of a marriage certificate etc is required, again depends on the police office. You will keep the same number, but a new NIE form will be issued in the correct name.


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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:50am

I'm buying a new car from Renault in Elche the guy there is saying my NIE document needs to be renewed, i don't understand as NIE is for life, can anyone help.    Colin

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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:21pm

COLIN Y wrote on Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:50am:

I'm buying a new car from Renault in Elche the guy there is saying my NIE document needs to be renewed, i don't understand as NIE is for life, can anyone help.    Colin

There isn't an official requirement to produce an NIE when buying a car from a dealer, but many do request it, especially if it's a new car that the dealer will have to register in your name.

As you say, an NIE is for life, so asking for a renewed version is totally illogical. I'd certainly challenge the dealer about it, and ask him to try and justify the request.

If you're resident, show him your residency certificate - that should shut him up.

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