UK and Spain Vaccine stats - Page 2

What is rubbish is your claim that the UK have been manipulating the stats, how can producing consistent figures be manipulation? 

 You claim that the UK are putting out their own version of statistics, but how how many government produced statistics can you produce as a comparison, the actual daily figures from government? I suspect at most you may have seen the Spanish figures. 

   The various global sites take the government figures from around the globe and feed them into their platform to show a comparision by country. The UK figures have been on multiple platforms from day one, if you have been looking you would have seen the comparisions. Even Sanchez was quoting the UK website, OneWorldinData when comparing the figures.

Spain has caught up and that is great news, but don't forget the EU including Spain struggled for months due to a variety of reasons. So now they as well placed as the UK, good. 

Aitch. 

Hi Boca,

         there is nearly always a lag between cases rising and deaths increasing. That is due to the fact people have treatment for some time before either being discharged or unfortunately dying. What stats do you have to say the number of daily tests in the UK are diminishing?

   I think in all countries when things open up infections increase. Many countries, Spain included. have opened up for financial reasons. The only criticism I would have of Spain's initial opening is that they did not insist on any testing or proof of vaccination for several weeks, but they have changed that now.

Aitch.

Sorry, I did not say UK tests are dropping, I said Covid cases are dropping. This was reported by several sources including BBC website. As for the honesty of the government, specially B. Johnson, there are many reports to the contrary. This is one of the hundreds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAMhtR0mIXU&ab_channel=FRANCE24English

I said UK government was using there own 'benchmark' to show greater figures compared to other parts of the world. The UK statistics published on the global sites are based on the figures from the UK government, just put in the context of every other country. I didnt say the UK are putting out their 'own version'. I said they are using their own benchmark, not global benchmark, or WHO benchmark. Hence the wording '%age of adult population' not '%age of population'. 

Oneworldindata, which you mentioned as a reputable site, is where the statistics are from. As far as this comment 'I suspect at most you may have seen the Spanish figures'. WHY would you suspect this...

Some of us have UK television as well as IPTV from all around the world, not just a terrestrial Spanish aerial.

Spain has caught up and in total vaccinations surpassed the 'world leader' and we all know about the problems Spain had with vaccines at the start, so hats off to them in covering so much ground in such a short timescale.

Pointless wasting your breath 🤔. There will no doubt be a publication from Boris to the contrary that is more believable to some people.

Btw this cant be true because she was the FRENCH ambassador to the UK 🤣🤣. And Boris said it's not true.

Hi Boca,

      I must admit I am confused as to what you are saying, the Gov is telling lies is telling about the number of cases but telling the truth about the number of deaths? 

  I see infections and cases are the same thing but please tell me what you mean by cases? Also what you think is to be gained by understating the cases but not the deaths? 

Aitch.

Yep, shock news, French (ex) official running down the UK Prime Minister. I wonder what she thinks of Macron...................................

Aitch.

Yes, cases and infections are the same, but test is different. Number/percentage of cases can be manipulated as swc pointed out, depending how you calculate, but number of deaths cannot be as every death must be registered.

It is not just French ambassador saying this, you only need to google "Boris Johnson's lies" and see how many videos and articles come up. Enjoy.

And what would to be gained by inflating the number of deaths versus the number of cases?

  Do you know that the daily numbers going into hospital are recorded and reported in the UK? Figures are supplied by NHS bodies in England/Scotland/Wales/NI.

I'm not sure what this has to do with the thread on vaccinations but I a sure you will enlighten me as to the link.

Aitch.