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Possible court case for Brexit lies

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 11:24pm
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And here goes. This could open the flood gates. Remainers may agree, Brexiteers will put it down as propaganda. Who would have believed the lies ..... 

 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/31/uk-shellfish-farmers-threaten-legal-action-over-ban-on-exports-to-eu?utm_source=upday.samsung.browser&utm_medium=referral

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:02am

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:02am

Not sure i would worry about the very bitter sore losers, they can complain for eternity it will do them no good, democracy will always win.

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:53am

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:53am

I wonder who were the "influencers" behind the scene. Blair was smart eough to drop out in time, he surely knew what was coming. A united (the more the better) Europe can very well go along without Britain, but can Britain? Better (those still doubtful) wake up and face the facts. United we will be strong, times of fighting each other for supremacy are definitely gone.

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 10:23am

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 10:23am

RobertBB wrote on Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:02am:

Not sure i would worry about the very bitter sore losers, they can complain for eternity it will do them no good, democracy will always win.

Hi RobertBB, 

I don't think you understand the issue - most of these business owners voted FOR Brexit.  More than a month ago, some stated they regretted their vote.  It appears that the negative impact on our fishing industry is significant and widespread.

Kind regards, 

Kim

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:13pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:13pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Apr 1, 2021 10:23am:

Hi RobertBB, 

I don't think you understand the issue - most of these business owners voted FOR Brexit.  More than a month ago, some stated they regretted their vote.  It appears that the negative impact on our fishing industry is significant and widespread.

Kind regards, 

Kim

Kimmy, thank for the rather condescending reply, may i ask why would you suspect i do not understand the issue ?, i guess we need to agree to disagree on this one but maybe we can revisit this in 5 years time to see who was right, though i suspect there will be no EU in 5 years time or if there is it will be in a very much more trimmed down version, lets wait see who is closer to the mark.

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:45pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:45pm

Sorry, Robert, but I didn't intend to be condescending.  I was simply calling out some facts that you don't appear to understand - or perhaps you just take no interest in them? Speculating about the existence or not of the EU in 5 years' time is irrelevant to the subject of the OP's original post and my response, especially given that UK fishermen are losing their livelihoods now.  Perhaps, because of what appears to be your disdain of the EU, you think that's an acceptable sacrifice?

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:48pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:48pm

I suspect there will have been nothing written down which enables UK govt to show the position referenced in the final paragraph of the article:

A Defra spokesperson said the department could not comment on any potential legal action. “The legislation was clear that the export of live bivalve molluscs from class B waters for purification could continue after the transition period. Our correspondence with the commission confirmed this,” he said. “The commission have now amended their import rules, without scientific or technical justification. Effectively, they have changed the law to justify their position in blocking the trade, causing impacts for businesses on both sides.”


But I can't see any legal action succeeding against UK govt either. Seems like yet another scenario where the lawyers make money and the businesses in question suffer irrespective.

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:41pm

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Posted: Thu Apr 1, 2021 2:41pm

Kimmy11 wrote on Thu Apr 1, 2021 1:45pm:

Sorry, Robert, but I didn't intend to be condescending.  I was simply calling out some facts that you don't appear to understand - or perhaps you just take no interest in them? Speculating about the existence or not of the EU in 5 years' time is irrelevant to the subject of the OP's original...

... post and my response, especially given that UK fishermen are losing their livelihoods now.  Perhaps, because of what appears to be your disdain of the EU, you think that's an acceptable sacrifice?

I take quite an interest in the fishing industry as i live very close to Peterhead and Fraserburgh, these are the two main fishing ports in Scotland so essentially local news for me.

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2021 9:47pm

RobertBB wrote on Thu Apr 1, 2021 9:02am:

Not sure i would worry about the very bitter sore losers, they can complain for eternity it will do them no good, democracy will always win.

Democracy? In UK? It's a joke. Johnson, who majors in mendacity (even to HM The Queen) has flouted the rules, illegally prorogued Parliament, & attempted to break international law. Only 50% of the population (mainly Sun-reading ex-Labour 3rd-rate-intellects) voted for Brexit. The current trade figures are appalling. January trade with EU down 40%.February trade down 80%.Entrepreneurs in UK are suffering. A UK pet food manufacturer who had 180 contracts with EU firms now only has 9! Why? Because of the massive increase in bureaucracy. It is therefore relocating to Holland with the inevitable loss of UK jobs. Ferry firms are by-passing the UK and have put in place services from the Continent direct to Ireland. Holyhead port has suffered badly with a knock-on effect in the town. Trillions of £'s in financial services have by-passed the City of London and gone through Amsterdam, £6 billion on 1st January alone.  Incidentally, if you feel so warm about Brexit I suggest you come back to the UK and see the economic disaster unfolding. Perhaps you even voted for it. 

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2021 10:14pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 2, 2021 10:14pm

Valencia lad wrote on Fri Apr 2, 2021 9:47pm:

Democracy? In UK? It's a joke. Johnson, who majors in mendacity (even to HM The Queen) has flouted the rules, illegally prorogued Parliament, & attempted to break international law. Only 50% of the population (mainly Sun-reading ex-Labour 3rd-rate-intellects) voted for Brexit. The current tra...

...de figures are appalling. January trade with EU down 40%.February trade down 80%.Entrepreneurs in UK are suffering. A UK pet food manufacturer who had 180 contracts with EU firms now only has 9! Why? Because of the massive increase in bureaucracy. It is therefore relocating to Holland with the inevitable loss of UK jobs. Ferry firms are by-passing the UK and have put in place services from the Continent direct to Ireland. Holyhead port has suffered badly with a knock-on effect in the town. Trillions of £'s in financial services have by-passed the City of London and gone through Amsterdam, £6 billion on 1st January alone.  Incidentally, if you feel so warm about Brexit I suggest you come back to the UK and see the economic disaster unfolding. Perhaps you even voted for it. 

Well said. Couldn't agree more, but pointless quoting figures. Some dont understand or are unable interpret them. Hence the reason we are now in the mess we are from the vote.

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