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Banking problems for purchasing a new property

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:21pm
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Weedster

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Hello All

Just feel like I need to write this down as my frustration is boiling over. 

We put an offer on a property on 5th October 2021 which was accepted. We were the taken the same day to our solicitor to start the ball rolling, notary, NIE, etc.

On 3rd November my solicitor contacted me to say that Sabadell would be in touch to move this forward. We sent all our documents then.

We received our NIE numbers 10 November.

On 15 November our solicitors forwarded them!

On 30 November I chased this up as nothing had happened. 

Then 20 December Sabadell got in touch, said the account was set up but then demanded proof of income which we sent straight away.

Then 21 December they sent me an email with 7 attachments on with over 100 sheets of paper in them stating we had to print EVERY one off and sign EVERY one both of us and on front and reverse of every sheet and then send it back by private courier!

So, from our point of view this has been going on for over 2 months and we are supposed to complete next week, we are both at work and I don't know anywhere to do this printing off or the cost or where to find the time during the working day or even if anywhere will be open!

I'm just raging at the minute and also my solicitor says I cannot use Wise for my purchase even though I have the full amount sitting in euros in it.  They are going on about bankers drafts and laundering etc and it being foreign, even though it falls under SEPA banking. I'm also sure Sabadell are doing their best to frustrate us, as I'm sure an email stating my intentions to leave them once I'd purchased the property was viewed by them.

Is this the same for everyone???

Kelvin1960

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34pm

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34pm

We bought in 2017.

We transferred the funds to our Spanish solicitor from our UK bank.

Although our Spanish solicitor had our Power of Attorney, and set up our Sabadell account, we didn't sign any Sabadell paperwork until we arrived (after the house transaction had completed). And yes, there were lots of forms.

Weedster

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:42pm

Weedster

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Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:42pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34pm:

We bought in 2017.

We transferred the funds to our Spanish solicitor from our UK bank.

Although our Spanish solicitor had our Power of Attorney, and set up our Sabadell account, we didn't sign any Sabadell paperwork until we arrived (after the house transaction had completed). And yes, there were lots of forms.

Hi thanks for your reply. I think it's a case of data protection and money laundering gone mad nowadays. My solicitor has POA but states we cannot pay the money into their account as it has to go to the sellers from an account in my name. Which my Wise account is. 

Gordy61

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:28am

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:28am

We have just recently purchased a property in Spain. We opened a Currency Direct account  and transferred the money into it from our UK bank account. We then transferred the money to the seller and the solicitor/notary from there. All the solicitor/notary requested was an email that listed the UK bank account and Currency Direct account details to confirm where the funds had come from. 

Weedster

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:13am

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:13am

Gordy61 wrote on Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:28am:

We have just recently purchased a property in Spain. We opened a Currency Direct account  and transferred the money into it from our UK bank account. We then transferred the money to the seller and the solicitor/notary from there. All the solicitor/notary requested was an email that listed t...

...he UK bank account and Currency Direct account details to confirm where the funds had come from. 

Thanks

Sounds perfectly plausible to me, but so far I'm less than impressed by my solicitor and feel as if every other party is doing their best to make this as awkward as possible. 

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Peter3473

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:20am

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:20am

Kelvin1960 wrote on Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:34pm:

We bought in 2017.

We transferred the funds to our Spanish solicitor from our UK bank.

Although our Spanish solicitor had our Power of Attorney, and set up our Sabadell account, we didn't sign any Sabadell paperwork until we arrived (after the house transaction had completed). And yes, there were lots of forms.

Basically the same for me in 2019 a independent solicitor with power of attorney, set up everything and when payments were required I paid straight to the solicitor who then paid the seller on my behalf, saving me money in bank charges, I also used currency direct, Wise is a good choice as I am on the understanding they use a EU iban number = no transfer fees, where using a GB iban number will generate Spanish bank charges = rather a lot is my guess on a property purchase.

Pix Elated

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51am

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51am

Weedster wrote on Fri Dec 24, 2021 9:13am:

Thanks

Sounds perfectly plausible to me, but so far I'm less than impressed by my solicitor and feel as if every other party is doing their best to make this as awkward as possible. 

This is just a taste of things to come, everything in Spain is made as complicated and convoluted as possible.

I can only think they get some kind of perverse pleasure making people's lives difficult and as frustrating as they can, they certainly don't make it easy that's for sure.

Weedster

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:01am

Weedster

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:01am

Pix Elated wrote on Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:51am:

This is just a taste of things to come, everything in Spain is made as complicated and convoluted as possible.

I can only think they get some kind of perverse pleasure making people's lives difficult and as frustrating as they can, they certainly don't make it easy that's for sure.

Ha, I agree

Kimmy11

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:12am

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:12am

Hi Weedster,

Gosh, you've been having a hard time of it with Sun Lawyers!  I think it's time to play hardball with them again - an email along the lines of them frustrating your purchase by recommending Sabadell and then failing to follow through to ensure the account was set up in a timely manner (why are you paying them to have a POA?!)  Are you currently in Spain, or the UK?  If the latter, you may also want to suggest that you will have to travel to Spain in the new year, in a timeframe of your convenience, to set up an account with a different bank - and Sun Lawyers will have to explain the delay in completion to the vendor and their solicitors.

I know that EU anti money laundering and tax fraud regulations have tightened up, more so for UK buyers since Brexit, but as you say, your Wise account is in your name and presumably you can prove an audit trail for the money from your UK bank.  It is not unusual for non-resident buyers to pay purchase funds to their lawyer's client account for distribution at completion.

Good luck!

Kind regards, 

Kim

Binz1

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:00pm

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Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:00pm

Hi Weedster, such a nightmare for you when you least need it but I agree with Kimmy it's time to take a stronger stance with your solicitors. 

We bought our apartment in 2019 and used SGM solicitors who did everything for us NIE, DDs etc it really was so simple they even got us a refund as our first electric bill was part due from the previous owners. We also went with Sabadell but I went with the estate agent (casas manuel) and signed everything in the branch it really was all stress free and simple. 

Best of luck and hope it all works out for you

Best regards Binz 

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