Advice on the 90 day ruling - Page 2

They’re not new rules. Since Brexit, the U.K. is treated as a third country and the EU countries have pre-existing rules in relation to illegal immigration from non aligned states. 

Because, unfortunately, this is what the UK population voted for by leaving the EU. Admittedly not all voted leave, but all are effected by it unless you have residencia.

As James said, these are not new rules but the UK decided to leave the EU and therefore have the same rights as any other third country. Many of the people leaving Spain 'in droves  is because they opted not to become legally resident in the country.

Spain have a dept that is comparable to Greece and Italy and like most countries having to go to the EU bank to survive,by turning the Brits away, considering that over the years of the English tax payer contributing heavily into Spain’s economy and then to be treated as so have reported on social media and news papers I can only think that without the Brits Spain will suffer.Already the Portuguese are taking thousands of requests for villas as our friends are on the waiting list with property agents hoping to move.I look at the whole situation from one as myself with a Canadian Passport and wonder why when you need as much money as you can get,why turn it away.

Yes Spain has a high national debt at the moment, as does virtually, if not, every country in the world, including the UK. 2021 figures being Spain 1,392,733 Million. The UK 2,224.5 Billion and before anyone comments, YES I do know about GDP. Just pointing out everyone has a higher debt than usual and ALL will have to repay these debts one way or another (taxes)

Excerpt from UK ONS  'UK general government gross debt was 13.1 percentage points above the average of the 27 European Union (EU) member states at the same point in time'. 

Just for the record Spain is NOT turning away UK tourism, this was done by the traffic light system imposed by the UK discouraging travel to keep tourism revenues at home.

What is happening, is the EU is following the same rules for the UK as it does for any other third country. You are welcome to come to Spain for up to 90 days in 180 days. This will not effect general tourism. What it will effect is 2nd home owners who want to stay longer than 90 days.

Again for the record...the UK population opted to leave the EU not Spain. The 90 day rule was always there, it is not new. The UK population voted Brexit and were too pig headed and thought they would be immune from third country regulations, not that this was even considered when the 'benefits' of leaving the EU were debated.

Certainly where I live, El Campello, the beaches have been pretty busy throughout the season so far and that also includes UK holiday makers. Don't forget there are NO tests required for entering Spain, just for flying back to UK, so which country is currently discouraging tourism to Spain?

Good luck to all your friends moving to Portugal, because the last time I looked Portugal was in the EU  and therefore obliged to operate under the same Rules as the other EU nations.

Portugal itself was crippled with debt a few years ago and increased it prices so much that it lost most of its tourism for a good many years. Many long established businesses had to close in Portugal, because they just couldn’t get the tourists to go.

Your friends will also find themselves in a situation where the cost of living  is much higher than Spain,Utility prices are higher, council tax, etc etc. 

Plus your money can buy a nice 3-4 bed villa in Spain or a 1-2 bed apartment in Portugal 

Portugal was our favourite holiday destination and was our preferred place to retire. We did our homework and realised we could never afford to live in Portugal, but could live quite comfortably in Spain and yes that was well before Brexit .

Lynn

Thanks Lynn for your reply,what is forcing many Brits from Spain is this ridiculous idea that the English pension is enough to put thousands into Spanish banks,all I keep in Sabadell bank is monies to pay my direct debits ie,electric,water, Suma and community fees.To put thousands into a bank and not be covered as in the U.K. by an FSA would for me be loads of sleepless night,as it was when the Cam bank I was with for around 28 years went over night leaving so many people trying to regain their money.The state pension in the U.K. is £9,350 per year,so what is the idea of it being compulsory to put so much into these banks,it can only make me very suspicious, if Spain is so cheap why so much and because my wife does the shopping she finds the Aldi supermarket near us a bit more expensive than the U.K.

As far as I know, if you apply for NLV, proof of income/ capital does not need to be in a Spanish bank account. 

That's not exactly what's forcing many Brits from Spain. although it will have an impact on some people. What is 'forcing' people from Spain, is they can no longer live 'under the radar' as they did for many years previously. If you want to buy a property here, do so and come and stay for 6 months of the year, but only 90 days at a time in 180. This will allow people to come for the majority of the winter then go back.

The money in the bank or savings etc is to apply for residency. If the people that were flocking back to the UK had applied for residency, when they should have done, 6 months after arrival, then they wouldn't need the figures that are now required and it was so much easier before the UK left the EU.

Once again, This is not only Spain. If you think its hard to apply in Spain look at Australia. I don't see complaints about what they ask for. 

Must admit Australia is the last place I’d want to live with everything that crawls or flys trying to poison you.I suppose I’m lucky having duel passports using one against the other.When we had our villa built Spain and most of the world was a very different place to live but with terrorist and suspicion it’s become harder.I was very surprised back in June when European people that wanted to live in the U.K. had to sign up to register and nearly 6 million applied, mostly French, Spanish and Portuguese. The registration was free and no bank account were asked for.Please don’t think that I support England but I do think that there should be some sort of fairness,after all the U.K. government is always spouting about,Our friends in Europe,can’t imagine where or who they are.