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swcoulthurst

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:24pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:24pm

Bruceyboy wrote on Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:09pm:

Must admit Australia is the last place I’d want to live with everything that crawls or flys trying to poison you.I suppose I’m lucky having duel passports using one against the other.When we had our villa built Spain and most of the world was a very different place to live but with terrorist ...

...and suspicion it’s become harder.I was very surprised back in June when European people that wanted to live in the U.K. had to sign up to register and nearly 6 million applied, mostly French, Spanish and Portuguese. The registration was free and no bank account were asked for.Please don’t think that I support England but I do think that there should be some sort of fairness,after all the U.K. government is always spouting about,Our friends in Europe,can’t imagine where or who they are.

Yes there are a few creepy crawly things. If I had decided to emigrate a few years earlier, I would be in Australia. However when I decided I looked at working life. If I moved to Australia I would have had to work for another 10 years. When I moved to Spain I could afford to retire at 55. No brainer really, but we already knew about brexit so we got residencia in January and moved in March. Maybe now with the effects of brexit I took the wrong decision, working or not. Being under state pension age, apart from the weather, the benefits of free movement, healthcare etc  have now gone. It's still ok if you are above state pension age as your healthcare is covered by the UK. Healthcare I would say is the main reason for people returning.

Cfell63

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:48pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:48pm

Bruceyboy wrote on Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:09pm:

Must admit Australia is the last place I’d want to live with everything that crawls or flys trying to poison you.I suppose I’m lucky having duel passports using one against the other.When we had our villa built Spain and most of the world was a very different place to live but with terrorist ...

...and suspicion it’s become harder.I was very surprised back in June when European people that wanted to live in the U.K. had to sign up to register and nearly 6 million applied, mostly French, Spanish and Portuguese. The registration was free and no bank account were asked for.Please don’t think that I support England but I do think that there should be some sort of fairness,after all the U.K. government is always spouting about,Our friends in Europe,can’t imagine where or who they are.

Gotta say, Australia is a great place to live.  I’ve never seen a snake other than in a reptile park even though we lived across the road from a national park area. Saw a wallaby hop along the road and an echidna.  In 28 years I’ve seen One funnel web ( potentially fatal) and discovered a few red backs ( also dangerous) under a storm grate on the patio. A quick spray of mortine put paid to those.  I think I used to see more daddy long legs in the UK than any spiders I see in Sydney. Roaches, yea you get those pretty much like Spain.   If only Aus wasn’t so expensive ! 

swcoulthurst

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:23pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:23pm

Cfell63 wrote on Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:48pm:

Gotta say, Australia is a great place to live.  I’ve never seen a snake other than in a reptile park even though we lived across the road from a national park area. Saw a wallaby hop along the road and an echidna.  In 28 years I’ve seen One funnel web ( potentially fatal) and discov...

...ered a few red backs ( also dangerous) under a storm grate on the patio. A quick spray of mortine put paid to those.  I think I used to see more daddy long legs in the UK than any spiders I see in Sydney. Roaches, yea you get those pretty much like Spain.   If only Aus wasn’t so expensive ! 

Yea cost of living really high, but relative to wages. The opposite of Spain. With Spain you want paying in pounds, in Australia you need to earn Australian dollars.

Bruceyboy

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:58am

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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 1:58am

swcoulthurst wrote on Sun Aug 29, 2021 2:24pm:

Yes there are a few creepy crawly things. If I had decided to emigrate a few years earlier, I would be in Australia. However when I decided I looked at working life. If I moved to Australia I would have had to work for another 10 years. When I moved to Spain I could afford to retire at 55. No bra...

...iner really, but we already knew about brexit so we got residencia in January and moved in March. Maybe now with the effects of brexit I took the wrong decision, working or not. Being under state pension age, apart from the weather, the benefits of free movement, healthcare etc  have now gone. It's still ok if you are above state pension age as your healthcare is covered by the UK. Healthcare I would say is the main reason for people returning.

Very true, the only thing in Spain the irritate me are the Mosquitoes, I did ask our community if they could do something about the villas that had been abandoned with swimming pool that were breading these horrible things.Tomorrow I will be travelling to Toronto,Canada were my father came from and then to Thailand where my in-laws live.I ve been stuck in the U.K. since May this year and I must say the old place is looking more like a refugee camp everyday and I need more sun,not from Canada but Thailand.

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:44pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:44pm

Bruceyboy wrote on Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:52pm:

Could anyone tell me why does this 90 day apply only to Europe when most of the EU countries are either facing bankruptcy or very nearly their and could do with as many people staying and spending money?

Because its crazy EU rules. We will just spend our cash elswhere in the world until they see sense.

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:50pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:50pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:28am:

Yes Spain has a high national debt at the moment, as does virtually, if not, every country in the world, including the UK. 2021 figures being Spain 1,392,733 Million. The UK 2,224.5 Billion and before anyone comments, YES I do know about GDP. Just pointing out everyone has a higher debt than usua...

...l and ALL will have to repay these debts one way or another (taxes)

Excerpt from UK ONS  'UK general government gross debt was 13.1 percentage points above the average of the 27 European Union (EU) member states at the same point in time'. 

Just for the record Spain is NOT turning away UK tourism, this was done by the traffic light system imposed by the UK discouraging travel to keep tourism revenues at home.

What is happening, is the EU is following the same rules for the UK as it does for any other third country. You are welcome to come to Spain for up to 90 days in 180 days. This will not effect general tourism. What it will effect is 2nd home owners who want to stay longer than 90 days.

Again for the record...the UK population opted to leave the EU not Spain. The 90 day rule was always there, it is not new. The UK population voted Brexit and were too pig headed and thought they would be immune from third country regulations, not that this was even considered when the 'benefits' of leaving the EU were debated.

Certainly where I live, El Campello, the beaches have been pretty busy throughout the season so far and that also includes UK holiday makers. Don't forget there are NO tests required for entering Spain, just for flying back to UK, so which country is currently discouraging tourism to Spain?

What a load of Tosh, I actually voted remain but Nobody knew about the rules that are affecting expats now especially 2nd home owners.

swcoulthurst

Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 5:00pm

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 5:00pm

Woodhai wrote on Wed Sep 1, 2021 4:50pm:

What a load of Tosh, I actually voted remain but Nobody knew about the rules that are affecting expats now especially 2nd home owners.

Which bit is a load of Tosh?  

The rules were always there for third countries. Due to the people who voted Brexit, the UK is now a third country. Why would you expect things to be different for the UK. 

Sorry if you dont agree, but it is fact.

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 10:37pm

swcoulthurst wrote on Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:48pm:

Because, unfortunately, this is what the UK population voted for by leaving the EU. Admittedly not all voted leave, but all are effected by it unless you have residencia.

The way people on here are suggesting is that the whole of the Uk voted to leave, it was nearly a 50/50 voted and it was only because Boris told a pack of lies and the vast majority believed him and the others it was all about immigrants coming into the country which was another pack of B/S so please don't tar everybody with the same brush, well we are now reaping the rewards of the Buffoon in charge so I hope the people who voted leave are happy. Just hope I get to El Campello in October where I have been going for over 35 yrs

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Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2021 10:46pm

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Magpie wrote on Wed Sep 1, 2021 10:37pm:

The way people on here are suggesting is that the whole of the Uk voted to leave, it was nearly a 50/50 voted and it was only because Boris told a pack of lies and the vast majority believed him and the others it was all about immigrants coming into the country which was another pack of B/S so pl...

...ease don't tar everybody with the same brush, well we are now reaping the rewards of the Buffoon in charge so I hope the people who voted leave are happy. Just hope I get to El Campello in October where I have been going for over 35 yrs

I completely agree with the fact that not everyone voted leave, but unfortunately it was the UK that voted and brought on the changes. The vote effected everyone whether leave or not. So it was the actions of the UK that are to blame for what came. People are saying it's the EU, but they are applying the same rules as every other 3rd country. I feel really sorry for people who own second homes. I feel really sorry for the younger generations who wanted to remain, but couldn't vote. But it doesnt alter the majority (albeit small) voted leave.

Bruceyboy

Posted: Thu Sep 2, 2021 2:08am

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Posted: Thu Sep 2, 2021 2:08am

Magpie wrote on Wed Sep 1, 2021 10:37pm:

The way people on here are suggesting is that the whole of the Uk voted to leave, it was nearly a 50/50 voted and it was only because Boris told a pack of lies and the vast majority believed him and the others it was all about immigrants coming into the country which was another pack of B/S so pl...

...ease don't tar everybody with the same brush, well we are now reaping the rewards of the Buffoon in charge so I hope the people who voted leave are happy. Just hope I get to El Campello in October where I have been going for over 35 yrs

I must say that most of the lies about the U.K. leaving the most corrupt club on earth,namely the EU was utterly wrong.The U.K. has struck up import and export deals that will earn the U.K. billions over the years.It wasn’t difficult to understand that by pulling out the U.K. are saving themselves and extra £55,000,000 per day which you would wonder where on earth did it go.We are renting a flat over looking the Thames Estuary and I’ve never seen so many container ships going up to the London Docks or the Sheerness Docks and the amount leaving fully loaded.Only time will tell over the next few years how many more countries will see how the U.K. are doing financially and pull out,at the moment Hungary and Poland are looking a good bet.

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