ISSUES BETWEEN 2 NEIGHBORS

If it was me I would dismantle the wall and see where it goes from there, if they rebuild I would remove it every time they would I should imagine give up in the end.

Hi boguszewicz, welcome to the Forum.

You have my sympathies being dragged into that dispute, however as you took on the role of Presidente ,then mediating in the situationsit is one of the functions of your job. You could consider to resign from the position and leave the two warring neighbours to it 

Another solution could be to retain your position and quietly suggest to neighbour No13 to arrange to knock down the wall whilst neighbour No.12 is out of the country. Let No 12 then call the Police if they wish.

If, as likely,  the wall is rebuilt, the same action should again be taken.

LeckyLes 

Might be worth checking if the Community has a set of adopted rules. Theses are rules that you agree to abide by when buying a property in a Community, and usually include stuff like this - building new exterior walls! Sometimes rules get "lost". Check with other owners, check with the Administrator who should have one in any case. If and when you find one, and it does exclude this kind of behaviour, show it to the owners who built the wall. Give them a copy and a deadline to remove the wall, after which get the wall down!

Thank  you  very  much   for  your   answers  .  Yes ,   MRT 1973 -  that  would  be  my  idea  if  that    be  my  wall. At   this  point    just   gathering ideas .

RayD -  I   left    visit   and   denuncia  to  Town Hall as  a  last  results . 

LeckyLes - apparently  drew  for  president   is  "by  the    horizontal  law "  that  99%  people  do  knot   know  about  it  .  I  was  one  of  them .You   MUST -   be one  for  a  year .Thank  you   for   sympathy   ,   feels  better   !! 

You  could   not  resign . I did   fight   for  a  months. Wall  issue  -- at  the  moment  I,m  trying  to  find    print [law]  about  leagall sizes  of  the  walls . 

operationdinne rout -  all  was  checked ,  meeting   with  admin.  lawyer  was  done ,  meeting  with  bad neighbor  and  her contractor   was  done . According  to  them -   they   right .They   try  to  scared  me ,  other neighbor, now   they  working  on  administrator  trying  to  scared  them  with  the  court -     lots  of  bad  emails .In  December  Admin.  and  me  send  them  email  with  demanding  to   take  wall  down  by  15th of  Dec . ,,,,,,,,,  well ,   that  was   a  ticking  bomb.  I,m  not   going  into   the  details   what  was  said .  So,      3   results  left -  wall  down , town Hall , Court -and  5  years  fighting . Thank  you  for  your  time  !!

Hi boguszewicz,

What a horrible situation for you to have to arbitrate, you have my sympathy. 

Some friends of ours have a similar problem.  Their neighbour has built a 2.3m wall without permission and has left it unrendered on our friends' side.  Our friends tried to reach agreement with their neighbours, but relations broke down.  The architect at our Town Hall has confirmed that the maximum height allowed is 1.8m, so our friends have submitted a formal complaint to the Town Hall and await the architect to take enforcement action against their neighbours.  

I think the owners of Nr. 13 need to make a formal complaint about Nr. 12's development to their Town Hall.  Whatever community rules you have, they do not supersede planning regulations.

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank  you  Kim ,   that  is  a  super  help .  I  was   wondering  if  that  1.8  is  somewhere   write  on  a  paper ,  "online'   so  I  can   print  it    for  our  file.    Regards .  . 

Perhaps you could tackle this another way: if the residents at Nr. 12 are saying their development is legal, you could tell them that, as President, you need a copy of the permission they obtained from the Town Hall for your records.  There's no such thing as "permitted development rights" in Spain, as we have in the UK, so for their development to be legal, they must be able to provide you with a copy of the planning permission - either a Minor Works Licence or more likely for the extent of work you've described, a Major Works Licence.

Good luck!

Kind regards,

Kim

Thank  you  Kim ,    I,ll    see  what   I  can  do -as  far  as  I  know ,   from  talking  to      their   contractor ,    they  have   no  documents  . Contractor [Spanish}  said -   they  do  not  need  it  since  it  is  on  ""there,s  property ""   --   baloony  !! 

Typical response from contractors - they don't care about the legalities, they just want the work.

So, what to do next?  I think the owners of Nr 13, along with the community administrators, need to denounce the owners of Nr 12 and ask the Town Hall to take enforcement action against Nr 12.  The alternative would be for Nr 13 to take legal action, but subject to the rules of the community, Nr 13 may look to the community administrators to assume that responsibility - and the cost.

Good luck!

Kim