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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:19pm
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FreshStart

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Hello

I'm a woman in Scotland considering moving to this area with my 18 Yr old son and 19 Yr old daughter, & our dog who we adopted from Asoka Rescue in Orihuela 7 years ago.

Which documents will we need to be able to apply for jobs here?  I would be looking for skilled child care/early education or ASN care work, as would my daughter.  My son is looking for any unskilled employment opportunities that don't involve bar work/waiting.  He loves the outdoors, nature, and is a hard worker.  He's interested in labouring jobs in construction too.  

Reading through the Consulates page and other sites, has left me more confused about what needs to be obtained before and after the move.

In order to be considered for a job and a long term rental tenancy agreement what are the essentials to have in place in these planning and application stages please?

marcliff

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:53pm

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:53pm

You need a visa of some description to move to Spain if you are a UK citizen (or anyone else outside the EU)

If you wish to work you need a work visa which has to be applied for in your home country. You need a firm offer of contracted employment and the future employer must show the job was offered to a EU citizen but could not be fulfilled. This contracted work offer, including the no EU citizen not available. must be certified by the Spanish foreign office. 

As your children are 18 and 19 they must apply for visas in their own right and cannot claim dependency. 

Their are other options such as the non lucrative visa which does not allow you to take up employment until you have been a resident for over a year and can apply to change it to a work visa. You and your adult children would need their own visa and show you each have an income, or savings, in excess of 28,800 euro a year.

The other alternative is to have EU citizenship including Irish as EU citizens do not require a work visa nor show the income requirements except for 600 euro a month (each) and private medical insurance for all of you. Only under 18s get free healthcare once they have residency. 

tebo53

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:18pm

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Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 11:18pm

You will all need to apply for work visas:

https://visaguide.world/europe/spain-visa/long-stay/work/

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:20am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:20am

FreshStart wrote on Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:19pm:

Hello

I'm a woman in Scotland considering moving to this area with my 18 Yr old son and 19 Yr old daughter, & our dog who we adopted from Asoka Rescue in Orihuela 7 years ago.

Which documents will we need to be able to apply for jobs here?  I would be looking for skilled child care/early education or ASN care work, as would my daughter.  My son is looking for any unskilled employment opportunities that don't involve bar work/waiting.  He loves the outdoors, nature, and is a hard worker.  He's interested in labouring jobs in construction too.  

Reading through the Consulates page and other sites, has left me more confused about what needs to be obtained before and after the move.

In order to be considered for a job and a long term rental tenancy agreement what are the essentials to have in place in these planning and application stages please?

Do  you  speak fluent  Spanish  if  you  want to  work  in  a   Health  care  position   I  think  it  would  be compulsory,  as  most  care  homes  have  variety  of  foreign  National  and  Spanish  too,

All  medical  conditions  are communicated  in Spanish,  to  avoid  a mix  up  and legal   ligation    so  translators  are  required 

Do  your  adult  kids  have command  of Spanish  as it would  open up  more  opportunities  if they did  ,  Have  you   got  EU  /  Irish/UK  passport,   if  you  UK  passport  it will  be difficult  if not  impossible  to  gain  serious  employment 

TonySmith

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:16am

FreshStart wrote on Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:19pm:

Hello

I'm a woman in Scotland considering moving to this area with my 18 Yr old son and 19 Yr old daughter, & our dog who we adopted from Asoka Rescue in Orihuela 7 years ago.

Which documents will we need to be able to apply for jobs here?  I would be looking for skilled child care/early education or ASN care work, as would my daughter.  My son is looking for any unskilled employment opportunities that don't involve bar work/waiting.  He loves the outdoors, nature, and is a hard worker.  He's interested in labouring jobs in construction too.  

Reading through the Consulates page and other sites, has left me more confused about what needs to be obtained before and after the move.

In order to be considered for a job and a long term rental tenancy agreement what are the essentials to have in place in these planning and application stages please?

To be very blunt, both you and your kids MUST have skills or experience that,  

 1) no Spanish person has, and 

  2) that no other EU person has,

Otherwise you do not qualify for a working visa and your chance  of getting working visas is almost non-existant.

Even if you go the NLV route and apply for employment after year 1, Spanish language skills are a must in order to beat out other EU applicants.

Sorry.

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John123456

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:28am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:28am

As others have indicated if you do not hold a EU/EEA or Swiss passport you will need a visa to live in Spain. This link lists the visas currently available and the conditions under which they are issued:

https://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajadas/seul/en/ServiciosConsulares/Paginas/inicio.aspx

The following link contains information and advice from the UK Government:

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/living-in-spain

FreshStart

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:40am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:40am

marcliff wrote on Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:53pm:

You need a visa of some description to move to Spain if you are a UK citizen (or anyone else outside the EU)

If you wish to work you need a work visa which has to be applied for in your home country. You need a firm offer of contracted employment and the future employer must show the job was offered to a EU citizen but could not be fulfilled. This contracted work offer, including the no EU citizen not a...

...vailable. must be certified by the Spanish foreign office. 

As your children are 18 and 19 they must apply for visas in their own right and cannot claim dependency. 

Their are other options such as the non lucrative visa which does not allow you to take up employment until you have been a resident for over a year and can apply to change it to a work visa. You and your adult children would need their own visa and show you each have an income, or savings, in excess of 28,800 euro a year.

The other alternative is to have EU citizenship including Irish as EU citizens do not require a work visa nor show the income requirements except for 600 euro a month (each) and private medical insurance for all of you. Only under 18s get free healthcare once they have residency. 

Thank you for taking the time to post a comprehensive reply, it's much appreciated.

It's frustrating when as a Country Scotland voted against Brexit but with the UK system we got it anyway.  If it hadn't happened our dream would be a reality.  Under the current circumstances it's sounding incredibly difficult with our skill sets.

We could try the seasonal work route for a taster but that wouldn't come with accommodation appropriate for our dog and if we could arrange it, she would be on her own for long periods, so wouldn't really work.

I'm wondering if a Digital Nomad visa might be the way to go to try and make it a reality instead?  If we can all get remote work online established and then make the move that way.  

I have a lot to think about.  Thanks again

John123456

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:48am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:48am

FreshStart wrote on Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:40am:

Thank you for taking the time to post a comprehensive reply, it's much appreciated.

It's frustrating when as a Country Scotland voted against Brexit but with the UK system we got it anyway.  If it hadn't happened our dream would be a reality.  Under the current circumstances it's sounding incredibly difficult with our skill sets....

...

We could try the seasonal work route for a taster but that wouldn't come with accommodation appropriate for our dog and if we could arrange it, she would be on her own for long periods, so wouldn't really work.

I'm wondering if a Digital Nomad visa might be the way to go to try and make it a reality instead?  If we can all get remote work online established and then make the move that way.  

I have a lot to think about.  Thanks again

Scotland having such close links with Ireland have you investigated the possibility that you may have Irish ancestry?  If you did happen to find an Irish grand parent you may be able to apply for an Irish Passport. This link provides further details:

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/

FreshStart

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:54am

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:54am

Sligogent wrote on Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:20am:

Do  you  speak fluent  Spanish  if  you  want to  work  in  a   Health  care  position   I  think  it  would  be compulsory,  as  most  care  homes  have  variety  of&...

...nbsp; foreign  National  and  Spanish  too,

All  medical  conditions  are communicated  in Spanish,  to  avoid  a mix  up  and legal   ligation    so  translators  are  required 

Do  your  adult  kids  have command  of Spanish  as it would  open up  more  opportunities  if they did  ,  Have  you   got  EU  /  Irish/UK  passport,   if  you  UK  passport  it will  be difficult  if not  impossible  to  gain  serious  employment 

Hello, thanks for replying.

All of us are just starting to learn Spanish, but after reading through all the replies here, I'm not sure it will be enough anyway.  We would be looking to move April next year.  I wouldn't expect us to be fluent in that time but to have a good grasp.

I hold a EU/UK/IRE red passport but the children both have Blue UK passports.

I also have office/admin/customer service experience so might look into the digital nomad route if it's as difficult for UK citizens to get a job within Spain as everyone's telling me.

FreshStart

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:58am

FreshStart

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Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:58am

John123456 wrote on Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:48am:

Scotland having such close links with Ireland have you investigated the possibility that you may have Irish ancestry?  If you did happen to find an Irish grand parent you may be able to apply for an Irish Passport. This link provides further details:

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving-country/irish-citizenship/
...

...

Thank you.  Unfortunately it's not something we could explore.  Our heritage is Welsh and English.

I appreciate the thought though, it would have been a brilliant bypass had it applied.

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