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Form SE1 Residencia

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:40pm
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Denise1969

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Location: Pedreguer

Hell please

Can anyone help.

 We have a home in Spain and are living in the uk at the moment. We are speaking to a solicitor but need more advice on getting Residencia. Does anyone know iwhat form SE1 is.  Is it issued when your private health cover is agreed?  Also My husband draws a state pension and it is suggested he needs a letter from the pension office as well as bank statements.  Does anyone know what sort of letter is required or is it an official document we need from them.

Thank you Denise and Steve

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:19pm

I think you're taking about an S1 not SE1 and that is the form that your oh as a pensioner is entitled to which confirms that UK are covering the cost of his health care - and by extension - yours too although he must request a second S1 for you.

Denise1969

Denise1969

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Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:49pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:49pm

Hello thank you

I’m not sure what’s meant by the uk providing healthcover as we will be taking out private cover for Spain as we have been advised for Residencia. I am below pension age. 

Thanks Denise 

RayD

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Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:38pm

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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:38pm

Denise1969 wrote on Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:49pm:

Hello thank you

I’m not sure what’s meant by the uk providing healthcover as we will be taking out private cover for Spain as we have been advised for Residencia. I am below pension age. 

Thanks Denise 

But you don't need private medical insurance. Your husband is of pension age and entitled to free healthcare by getting his S1 form from the DWP. He has to apply for you to be covered by S1 as well, as a dependent, and you both get free healthcare in Spain. Ring up and speak to the DWP Overseas department. The number is on the DWP web site or someone will post it here.

You then takes the S1 forms to the INSS in Spain and you both will be issued with a SIP card which enables you to register with your local Centro de Salud. You will be allocated a doctor, or can sometimes choose one.

When you reach pension age, you have to apply separately for your own S1 and register that with the INSS in your own right.

If you are using a UK solicitor, drop him as he won't have a clue. You need a Spanish abogado to act for you, especially if you don't speak Spanish.

You presumably have NIEs in Spain. You can register your healthcare via the S1 straight away and will get 3 month temporary SIP cards. When you have lived 90 days in Spain you need to register as residents at a national police station and will have to provide proof of enough income to support yourselves, and that you have healthcare. Spanish bank statements showing a monthly income of 700 € or more (it may be each, but I'm not sure on that) prove your ability to support yourselves. You then take your residencias to the INSS and they will issue you with permanent SIP cards.

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:58am

I don't normally reply to a topic if Ray gets to it before I do (thanks for saving me time, Ray!), but in this case I will.

I'd just make a couple of observations.

You don't have to wait three months before applying for residency, and can if you wish do so immediately you take up residence in Spain.

Less than a month ago a law was issued fixing the 'salario mínimo interprofesional' for 2019 at €900 pm, and this represented a 22% increase on that for 2018. The 'IPREM' figures which determine how much income a residency applicant has to prove are derived from this figure so, when the IPREM is revised, the financial requirements will become even more stringent than they are at present. Fortunately the IPREM is normally only revised in June or July.

Denise1969

Denise1969

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:44am

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:44am

Thank you for this information.  We just scrape in on this but my allowance is from a uk salary not a pension 

RayD

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:46am

The reason I said 3 months before residency was because I had to wait that long when I went to Elche in September 2015. They gave me NIE and said come back after 3 months for residency. At least, that's what the translator said as I didn't speak any Spanish then. I haven't actually seen it in writing though.

Mind you, it did give me time to get the S1 and SIP card sorted - a temporary SIP until I went back with the residencia, and also to get 3 month's worth of income into my Spanish bank to show I had a continuing income to support me.

Denise1969

Denise1969

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:59am

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:59am

Hi thank you so much for taking the time to reply. I’ll solicitor is Spanish but it’s not easy to get a reply from him. He gave us a list of things we need but one of them was private healthcare. Despite my husbands age!!  He advised we could cancel it after taking out as we’re not going to use it straight away our intention is not to move to Spain till next year but to get everything in place. Since found out that you have to pay for 12 months in full or it won’t be accepted because they then expect that you might cancel it. So I am beginning to have my doubts about this chap but we purchased the house through him and he has power-of-attorney et cetera and he is the only Spanish person locally that we know that we can get in touch with. I am concerned also because it has been suggested that we now need to prove €900 a month coming in for Income. We have below this unless we take into account rental income in the UK and also my salary which is a UK salary and of course I won’t be earning this if I live

RayD

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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:30am

As a start, ring the UK International Healthcare unit on, I think, 0191 218 1999 and have a word with them about the S1. They will confirm if your husband is entitled to one, and also yourself as a dependent.

The International Pensions Centre is on 0191 218 7777 if you have any problem with the above number. Their website is https://www.gov.uk/international-pension-centre

I think you can use your rental income in the UK as part of your income, as long as you can get a certified statement from your bank showing the regular income. I'm sure Jim or someone else will confirm this.

Also, don't forget the required sum is in euros, so multiply the GBP by 1.10, or whatever.

Denise1969

Denise1969

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Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42am

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Location: Pedreguer

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42am

Thank you I will get on to this much appreciated Denise 

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