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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:50am
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Karren

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Hi, we've been looking to buy a townhouse in Pego town. We are interested in a property built in the 1960's. Naturally, the electrics and plumbing need addressing. We see that the property has a mains switch rated at 10 amps. This is currently only running lighting and a few old sockets. Whilst the house will require rewiring, does anyone have any knowledge of acquiring a bigger electrical supply to a property. For comparison, our UK property has 100amp supply.

Hope someone can help.

Relyat

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59am

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59am

Essentially, it will need rewired. 

When this has been done you can apply to the supplier (Iberdrola?) to upgrade what is called the potencia. This has to be accompanied by a "boletin", this is a document issued by an electrician to confirm that the wiring and installation meets standards and is fit for purpose. 

My opinion, engage a qualified Spanish electrician from the start, very few English "electricians" are qualified to issue this and some simply don't understand the differences. 

Incidentally, where in town is it? 

Cheryl

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:57am

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:57am

Hi Karren, we are coming to the end of a total renovation project on our country villa and  as Trotter said in a previous post "Once you have bought it you will have the incentive to spend a small fortune to make it habitable"
In our experience, botched DIY is much more prevalent in Spain than in the UK and once you start getting under the veneer, all kind of horrors await you.
We have renovated and extended property ourselves in the UK so came to it with a lot of experience and my husband is multi skilled so labour costs are minimal but it has still cost us a lot of money to get the villa up to our standard.
Electrics; no earth! The RCD was present but bypassed. No connectors used, just bare wires joined together (including external underground wiring). When we took all the ceilings down to put insulation in there were a lot of scorch marks. We have also had to add many new sockets which entailed drilling channels into the walls for the wiring. The higher your input, the more it costs and what with the new tariifs you have to watch your usage between 8 am and midnight on weekdays
Plumbing; no traps or stench pipesso very smelly at times, sinks which did not drain (outlet buried under the drive), hot water relliant on wall hung electric or bottled gas boilers (in a 6 bed villa we only had hot water in the bathroom). 
Insulation; non existent and with single skin walls we have fitted insulation sheets to all external walls and then plasterboarded.
Heating; An open fire and a dangerous old wood burner. They churned through wood so you also need somewhere dry to store it all. We have installed central heating run off a combi boiler using bottled gas so we now have warmth and hot water on tap but it did mean digging up all the floors to run the pipework for the radiators and new bathrooms.
Woodworm; infested! Had to renew a lot of doorframes and beams and treated less affected timber.
Damp; widespread as no dpc. A lot of houses have part tiled walls which just cover it up.

I've lost count of the number of times my husband has called me to "Come and have a look at this, that or the other!!!"

We have a large garden so plenty of room for the multiple skips we have needed and to store supplies prior to use and we also have a  trailer so have avoided delivery costs for materials. 

Lastly, just about everyting you do will need a licence from the Ayuntamiento. As we were doing a full refurb we used an architect who dealt with everything under one major works licence.

Sometimes the expense incurred will not reflect in the value of the finished product.

Lots to think about.


Karren

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:21pm

Karren

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:21pm

Cheryl wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:57am:

Hi Karren, we are coming to the end of a total renovation project on our country villa and  as Trotter said in a previous post "Once you have bought it you will have the incentive to spend a small fortune to make it habitable"
In our experience, botched DIY is much more prevalent in ...

...Spain than in the UK and once you start getting under the veneer, all kind of horrors await you.
We have renovated and extended property ourselves in the UK so came to it with a lot of experience and my husband is multi skilled so labour costs are minimal but it has still cost us a lot of money to get the villa up to our standard.
Electrics; no earth! The RCD was present but bypassed. No connectors used, just bare wires joined together (including external underground wiring). When we took all the ceilings down to put insulation in there were a lot of scorch marks. We have also had to add many new sockets which entailed drilling channels into the walls for the wiring. The higher your input, the more it costs and what with the new tariifs you have to watch your usage between 8 am and midnight on weekdays
Plumbing; no traps or stench pipesso very smelly at times, sinks which did not drain (outlet buried under the drive), hot water relliant on wall hung electric or bottled gas boilers (in a 6 bed villa we only had hot water in the bathroom). 
Insulation; non existent and with single skin walls we have fitted insulation sheets to all external walls and then plasterboarded.
Heating; An open fire and a dangerous old wood burner. They churned through wood so you also need somewhere dry to store it all. We have installed central heating run off a combi boiler using bottled gas so we now have warmth and hot water on tap but it did mean digging up all the floors to run the pipework for the radiators and new bathrooms.
Woodworm; infested! Had to renew a lot of doorframes and beams and treated less affected timber.
Damp; widespread as no dpc. A lot of houses have part tiled walls which just cover it up.

I've lost count of the number of times my husband has called me to "Come and have a look at this, that or the other!!!"

We have a large garden so plenty of room for the multiple skips we have needed and to store supplies prior to use and we also have a  trailer so have avoided delivery costs for materials. 

Lastly, just about everyting you do will need a licence from the Ayuntamiento. As we were doing a full refurb we used an architect who dealt with everything under one major works licence.

Sometimes the expense incurred will not reflect in the value of the finished product.

Lots to think about.


Hi Cheryl, thank you for your detailed experience of the ordeal with your villa. I do hope you get all problems sorted and you'll be able to relax and enjoy your place in the sun. We're looking to buy a traditional townhouse in the centre of a town. We met a helpful estate agent today who advised us that it would be a straightforward procedure to get more amps in an old townhouse. I'm hoping it will be Pego though we realise there are properties in better condition in the surrounding towns/villages. Decisions decisions!

Thanks again.

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Karren

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:27pm

Karren

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:27pm

Relyat wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59am:

Essentially, it will need rewired. 

When this has been done you can apply to the supplier (Iberdrola?) to upgrade what is called the potencia. This has to be accompanied by a "boletin", this is a document issued by an electrician to confirm that the wiring and installation meets standards and is fit for purpose. ...

...

My opinion, engage a qualified Spanish electrician from the start, very few English "electricians" are qualified to issue this and some simply don't understand the differences. 

Incidentally, where in town is it? 

Hi Relyat, unusual name. Thank you for responding so quickly. You have given us a good idea on how to go about dealing with upgrading the power supply to a traditional house. Very much appreciated.

Best regards

Karren

Cheryl

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:19pm

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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:19pm

Karren wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:21pm:

Hi Cheryl, thank you for your detailed experience of the ordeal with your villa. I do hope you get all problems sorted and you'll be able to relax and enjoy your place in the sun. We're looking to buy a traditional townhouse in the centre of a town. We met a helpful estate agent today who advised...

... us that it would be a straightforward procedure to get more amps in an old townhouse. I'm hoping it will be Pego though we realise there are properties in better condition in the surrounding towns/villages. Decisions decisions!

Thanks again.

Unfortunately I know I am not alone but we went into it knowing we were going to totally gut the place, it was going to cost a lot of money and we expected to find all kinds of problems. We also had most of the skills needed so we didn't have to try to find many tradesmen, especially English speaking ones, and there are many people here who have been conned by both Spanish and British "tradesmen " (Ryanair Certificated)

Estate Agents are always friendly, it's their job, and everything is easy in their world. Ours told us we wouldn't need a Tourist Licence if we wanted to rent out part of the villa as holiday lets (luckily we decided against it and weren't relying on that income).

I'm not trying to rain on your parade just trying to give you a head's up and to let you know that very little is easy in Spain.

I wish you all the best, we love living here but there has been much grinding of teeth along the way.

Relyat

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:08am

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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:08am

Karren wrote on Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:27pm:

Hi Relyat, unusual name. Thank you for responding so quickly. You have given us a good idea on how to go about dealing with upgrading the power supply to a traditional house. Very much appreciated.

Best regards

Karren

Morning Karren

I can't disagree with anything Cheryl has said. Having carried out a lot of work at our last house, we moved to Pego three years ago and have reformed this house. We were lucky to be introduced to an honest and trustworthy Spanish builder who has, in turn recommended others. 

There are many other dwellings for sale both here and surrounding towns which may fit your requirements, only you will know this. 

I had dealings with a couple of agents in the town and bought through one of them. I don't particularly like or trust agents, but this one was the best of the bunch, although he only has the one objective. 

I wish you well with your search and if I can help with any local knowledge, let me know. 

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