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Spanish Consulate Update - application and income requirements, post Brexit - confirmation, Non-Lucrative Visa.

Kelvin1960Posted by Kelvin1960 on Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:52am in Brexit and the EU
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http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Pages/Visas.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0xMqhqHmEKBIff9XqYT9E6SLp-1cfG5WQqDfxajoVj2zCNqoLX8WqmZt0

(also contains links to other Visa types).

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Documents/RES%20ES-EN.pdf

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Documents/Fee%20list%20British%20citizens.pdf

Seems to confirm 26k Eu per person/32k Euro per couple annual income requirement. Also 516 Eu per person application fee. Re income ... there seems to be an option to demonstrate investment assets yielding the equivalent value.

Qualifying healthcare requirement. Also a medical certificate to show that applicants have no "public concern" illnesses. 

Criminal Record certificate required.

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:17pm

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:17pm

Hello Kelvin

Blimey, that's a lot of facts & figures to read and try and get your head around. I agree with the sections you have picked out & hilighted but there are so many more things to remember...that €516 to register for residencia is a surprise & pretty steep compared to the current €12 fee.

Can you post all this info somewhere so that  it doesn't get lost on this thread, it's going to be so important from 1.1.2021 & it's the first official update I've seen

Cheers

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38pm

Kelvin1960 wrote on Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:52am:

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Pages/Visas.aspx?fbclid=IwAR0xMqhqHmEKBIff9XqYT9E6SLp-1cfG5WQqDfxajoVj2zCNqoLX8WqmZt0

(also contains links to other Visa types).

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Documents/RES%20ES-EN.pdf

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Consulados/LONDRES/en/Consulado/Documents/Fee%20list%20British%20citizens.pdf

Seems to confirm 26k Eu per person/32k Euro per couple annual income requirement. Also 516 Eu per person application fee. Re income ... there seems to be an option to demonstrate investment assets yielding the equivalent value.

Qualifying healthcare requirement. Also a medical certificate to show that applicants have no "public concern" illnesses. 

Criminal Record certificate required.

Kelvin

can you point me in the directions of the info for EU passport holders requirements and their spouses?

Many thanks

Kelvin1960

Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:57pm

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elinspain wrote on Wed Dec 30, 2020 1:17pm:

Hello Kelvin

Blimey, that's a lot of facts & figures to read and try and get your head around. I agree with the sections you have picked out & hilighted but there are so many more things to remember...that €516 to register for residencia is a surprise & pretty steep compared to the current €12...

... fee.

Can you post all this info somewhere so that  it doesn't get lost on this thread, it's going to be so important from 1.1.2021 & it's the first official update I've seen

Cheers

Elinspain

Hi El

I'm not sure I know how to do that.

If you know how to do it, perhaps you could go ahead.

Thx

Edit ... Alex has added it to Tips and Guides

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Kelvin1960 wrote on Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:57pm:

Hi El

I'm not sure I know how to do that.

If you know how to do it, perhaps you could go ahead.

Thx

Edit ... Alex has added it to Tips and Guides

Hi Kelvin

 Ahh its in Tips & guides,  that's ideal....

Thanks

El

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:27pm

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Mary1961 wrote on Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38pm:

Kelvin

can you point me in the directions of the info for EU passport holders requirements and their spouses?

Many thanks

Hi Mary

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to your question.

But, if you look at the first link, there is a list of "categories" of people. You can click on each category, and a sub-menu opens up. 

You might find what you need there.

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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:54pm

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Mary1961 wrote on Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:38pm:

Kelvin

can you point me in the directions of the info for EU passport holders requirements and their spouses?

Many thanks

Mary

I may be incorrect but surely EU citizens/passport holders will stay under the “old rules”?

Deirdre

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:57am

I'm a little confused here. I will admit I haven't read all of the documents and all of the links they provide and will try to make time for that tomorrow. 

Has something dramatically changed?

Up until now it has been implied that a UK national could travel to Spain (post Covid etc) and during the first 90 days apply for Residency. If the application was granted there would be no need to return to the UK within the 90 day period. Has this changed? 

If it hasn't changed, what has? 

Is it simply that if you want to stay for longer than 90 days without an application for Residency you can do so but must apply for the NLV to comply? 

Hopefully someone can spell it out!

Steve

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dinnerout wrote on Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:57am:

I'm a little confused here. I will admit I haven't read all of the documents and all of the links they provide and will try to make time for that tomorrow. 

Has something dramatically changed?

Up until now it has been implied that a UK national could travel to Spain (post Covid etc) and during the first 90 days apply for Residency. If the application was granted there would be no need to return to the UK within the 90 day period. Has this changed? 

If it hasn't changed, what has? 

Is it simply that if you want to stay for longer than 90 days without an application for Residency you can do so but must apply for the NLV to comply? 

Hopefully someone can spell it out!

Steve

Lots for all of us to take in ...

The first link includes the following statement ... "British citizens and their family member need visa for journey undertaken after 31st December 2020 for the purposes of residence, studies for period larger than 90 days, work, professional, artistic or religious activities" .

The second link is the application for the "Non-Lucrative Residence Visa".

It sounds like "Residency" (for retired Brits) is the "Non-Lucrative Residence Visa" in future.

That is how I am reading it. Alternative interpretations welcomed.

So the new process might be ... (1) come here for up to 90 days, agree to buy/lease a home, set up a Spanish Solicitor (to sort NIE, bank, house, Visa etc.), go back to the UK, (2) return to Spain on the earlier of the dates of grant of Non-Lucrative Residence Visa or the next 90 days.

This does seem to make the process of selling up in the UK/buying in Spain a bit more complex.  

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:03am

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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:03am

If Spain does stick to what appears to be fairly tough financial requirements whereby the annual funding for at least the first/ main applicant is set at Eur 26k then that will eliminate many from being able to retire here.

Up until now money in the bank has been accepted but that clearly isn't the same as having an estate capable of generating equivalent income. 

Those with just UK state pensions will surely be excluded in the future even if they have a few quid in the bank.

It's going to be interesting reading on here and other forums how easy it is to pass through the new system and whether the UK consulates are flexible or applying things to the letter of the law. 

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