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Andrew65

Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:10pm

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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 10:10pm

HeatherBob wrote on Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:01pm:

I did say that which is entirely different from saying I am having problems gaining residency, fact is we are undecided if we want residency "at this time", I shall not go into reasons.

The fact stands that Brits coming to Spain must abide by the laws of the country and jump through hoops to gain residency while it seems so called refugees need only jump in a dingy to become EU citizens....

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The Brits going to Spain aren't fleeing from persecution and risking death if they go back to "their own country " 

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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:32pm

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HeatherBob wrote on Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:31pm:

This is not the debate I wanted either, I had hoped you might find out which Urb was supposedly being abandoned by Brits so we might give the facts you originally asked for, without stating which urbanization how can you expect factual information back, or was it your attempt at spreading fake ne...

...ws ?.

The fact you are not keen on my thoughts re refugees AKA economic migrants is of little consequence to myself however I am quite sure if these economic migrants are allowed to flood the EU in the coming years it will undoubtedly become an issue that will have huge consequences to all of us.

I expressed no opinion on your position on refugees. I explained that the international laws concerning the treatment of refugees are not an EU matter.

My original post sought factual evidence from members across the Costa Blanca. The specific Urb is irrelevant.  

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:05am

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:05am

Hi Kelvin, In response to the Facebook article , and your request for members feedback on its content,and in particular the statement suggesting  people are leaving in droves and having to sell their properties at a much reduced price. A quick search of Google informs us that ,year upon year ,property prices in The Canaries and The Balearics rose by 10.6 % ,and in mainland Spain they rose by 2.9 % 

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:43am

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:43am

Just look on this forum the amount of people who are buying !! The one show on BBC 1 did a bit about people selling up cos of Brexit blah blah blah it was the biggest load of bull shit I'd seen in years ! Typical BBC anti Brexit doom and gloom , and then they go and scrap the licence fee for over 75's , class that 

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:55pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:55pm

Do love these EU establishment lovers that are still in denial. It seems brexiters have a problem with facts, i would have thought it were the remainers that have problems with fact, to start with they seem unwilling to accept the fact we had a democratic vote and brexiters won, as for the impact on Brits in Spain i would think minimal if any , unless off course you believe the doom mongers still crying into their G & Ts.

Fact is if it were not for 3 or 4 hundred EU loving MPs that have a problem with democracy we would already have been out and already have negotiated a good deal with the EU bureaucrates, what these remainers seem to forget is the EU needs Britain as much as Britain needs the EU.

I have posted an interesting link below, i like to be factual in my posts rather than quoting "undisclosed" sources.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/03/01/inenglish/1551427780_768403.html?id_externo_promo=enviar_email


https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/03/01/inenglish/1551427780_768403.html?id_externo_promo=enviar_email



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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:02pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:02pm

HeatherBob wrote on Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:55pm:

Do love these EU establishment lovers that are still in denial. It seems brexiters have a problem with facts, i would have thought it were the remainers that have problems with fact, to start with they seem unwilling to accept the fact we had a democratic vote and brexiters won, as for the impact...

... on Brits in Spain i would think minimal if any , unless off course you believe the doom mongers still crying into their G & Ts.

Fact is if it were not for 3 or 4 hundred EU loving MPs that have a problem with democracy we would already have been out and already have negotiated a good deal with the EU bureaucrates, what these remainers seem to forget is the EU needs Britain as much as Britain needs the EU.

I have posted an interesting link below, i like to be factual in my posts rather than quoting "undisclosed" sources.

https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/03/01/inenglish/1551427780_768403.html?id_externo_promo=enviar_email


https://elpais.com/elpais/2019/03/01/inenglish/1551427780_768403.html?id_externo_promo=enviar_email



Well reasoned comments, what I have been saying for what seems like years, scaremongering on an epic scale by those who oppose the democratic vote of the British people.

Andrew65

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:11pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:11pm

What exactly upsets people so much about the EU? I would like to know what laws or regulations have been passed that affects their lives so much?

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:54pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:54pm

Pete, I agree in part with your post, certainly the newspapers each have their own agenda as does the British propoganda channel AKA the BBC.

There isone important factor, Spain will suffer financially if a hard line is taken with ex Pat's and those living here without residency, I could take this point further on the economic impact and possibly house prices, let's hope the EU are willing to negotiate rather than dictate.

As for Boris I am not to keen on him, I think he is a Pratt but that's nothing new for UK prime ministers, better a Pratt than an out and out liar like May.

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:59pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:59pm

I'm sure Russian "investors" will be quite able to fill the gap left by Brits going back to the UK.

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:14pm

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:14pm

Whilst i may agree that there will be a financial impact on Spain if expats (of whichever nationality) leave in droves, please explain to me how Spain will be affected financially if those who are living here illegally  therefore without paying tax decide to leave? They are benefiting from Healtcare (presumably? EHIC?), infrastructure - roads, rail, airports, water sewage systems etc etc to which they are making no contribution?

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